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Hohummm

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Electric motors..how many lbs?
« on: October 14, 2008, 09:45:36 PM »

I'm looking for an electric motor for my tin boat. It's an older, fairly narrow beam 12 footer. What is the minimum lbs of thrust that I should consider? Any brands/models that I should steer clear of? thanks in advance.
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Re: Electric motors..how many lbs?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2008, 09:55:55 PM »

well, for what it's worth, i have a minnkoda 36lb thrust electric motor i bought this spring to propel my 12 ft. folding boat around the local lakes and so far i've been very satisfied with it. it's strong, well made and reliable. also very quiet, and i only use a spare 12 volt car battery, not a deep cycle marine one. it does the job just fine. make sure you take some paddles or oars as backup, and remember to stay off the lakes where the big winds blow, the electrics are powerless against wind. cheers!
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Re: Electric motors..how many lbs?
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2008, 10:23:10 PM »

I have a 40lb minnkota with the maximizer. The maximizer allows you to go further on a single battery charge. I have an 11' inflatable and it's perfect for lake fishing. I'd definitely suggest go with a quality brand motor. Also you may wish to check out the deep cycle batteries at costco as several models are very inexpensive.  Got mine there a couple years ago, have used it 30+ times and works like new each time
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Re: Electric motors..how many lbs?
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2008, 10:37:14 PM »

This was my take after a conversation with Minkota.

Pounds thrust is not relative to HP in any way because if you have either 30lbs thrust or 55lbs thrust you would still only have a maximum speed of 3-5 miles per hour, the main difference being that the higher thrust rating could keep you moving in strong headwinds on on a fast flowing river whereas the lower power would struggle in those situations, even 30lbs thrust is rated for 1500lb and under boats so it is more than adequate for a small craft.
 
The formula is Volt x Amp hour draw divided by 746 to work out HP to Lbs thrust (they really can't be compared but this is the best way should you care)
 
So 12v motor drawing say 30 amp hour (30lbs thrust at full power is same as amp draw) divided by 746 gives you about a half horsepower, You can take this one step further and work out how long the battery should last based on Battery Amp Hour capicity, so if you are drawing 30 amp hour off a 100 amp hour rated battery then it should last for 3 hours at full thrust, bear in mind that really only about 80% of battery capicity is usable. So if you are trolling at 1/2 power with a 30Lb thrust motor and using a 100 Amp hour battery then you would get about 5 - 6 hours. Clearly this time decreases as you increase Lbs thrust of the motor itself, by that I mean 55Lbs thrust will draw almost twice the power of 30 - but you could troll on 1/4 power and still get similar battery life.... well you can do the math from here forwards based on your motor and battery but you get the general idea!

From the models I have looked at Minkota look solid, always have Oars and a spare bettery if possible.

Wal-Mart as much as I can't stand them were selling the Minkota 30 cheaper than anywhere else when I was looking into it but at the time they only had them in Guilldford Mall.

If anyone knows more about this then please post as I am sure there is more to know.

Regards,

Tinhat
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Re: Electric motors..how many lbs?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2008, 08:45:47 AM »

I don't know any fancy formulas or anything, but I do know this... I have a plain Minn Kota 30lb and a 50lb with the maximizer. I've used both on my 11 foot zodiac with the same marine deep cycle battery. The 50 with maxximizer is far stronger and lasts way longer on the battery then the plain 30. Plus, it has a battery meter right on it! In my opinion it's worth the extra money. One thing to remember is, make sure you get a proper charger if you are using deep cycle batteries. It keeps them strong longer.
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Re: Electric motors..how many lbs?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2008, 04:44:08 PM »

Do not buy the M Endura. Get the Maxxum.
The Endura does NOT have variable speed, and you will regret not having it. Pay the extra 100 bucks and get the Maxxum.
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Re: Electric motors..how many lbs?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2008, 05:22:46 PM »

I have the Maxuum 50 on my 10' Spratley. Thats the size I would use if I were you. The 50 is only sold at Costco.
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