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Re: Off to Euroland
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2008, 01:17:05 PM »

...I might even be able to make a delivery since I may need to be on VI for a meeting around the end of January. :)

Sincerely appreciated Rod! Could actually use a little shot of that stuff today! :-\
The powder was meant to be mixed with water prior to ingestion if that helps at all...

BTW, bring your river gear when you wander over. Methinks we might have to check on the local flow re: steel while you're about ;)

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Hi I live in Norway, and I will be happy to help you. Do you remember what the embelage look's, was it a creame? Peter
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Re: Off to Euroland
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2008, 10:06:19 AM »

I forgot that we have members from Norway on the forum as well. Peter would be the best person to ask I think. Nina took a look at what Matt described and said, "I don't know what the heck he is talking about." :o ;D

Since my arrival in Denmark just under three weeks ago, I have put in around 30 hours of fishing and all I can say is that the result has been disappointing beside the few sea trout that I connected at a slough over a week ago.



Miles of coastline have been covered and they have not yielded a single bite. The sub-zero wind chill hasn't made the experience that enjoyable either. Fingers were constantly numb and the breathable waders have been too breathable. The scenery has been pretty nice. Crowding is definitely not a concern. I can fish for miles without seeing a single person. Perhaps everyone else is just smarter and staying indoor and getting drunk during these dark days. ;D

While walking in anckle-deep water along the beach yesterday, I startled a sea trout that was easily in the 5 or 6lb class with my foot. It was resting in the shallow thick algae bed just several feet from shore. That pretty much ruled out the "no fish" theory. ::)



Wind is the biggest nemesis for beach fishermen. Luckily, being on an island, we have the option of choosing the side of the island where it is not facing the wind. Occasionally the wind turns and strengthens in the last minute, which spoils the entire day's of fishing, like today. The above photo was taken from the south end of Køge Bay, with Copenhagen in the far background. Køge Bay can be clearly seen when you fly into Copenhagen. The fishing is supposed to be pretty productive, at least from the photos of sea trout that I have seen. These sea trout have much larger girth than fish produced in other parts of the country, probably because their diet is mostly herring than shrimps.

I became so bored from the beach fishing, I started taking underwater photographs of snails. ::)





The weather has constantly been overcast, which is not that unusual in Northern Europe. The poor lighting makes the short winter days even shorter. From first light to last light, I have about six hours of opportunities to find a fish. A few days ago, the sun finally showed itself for the first time since I arrived. I took a shot of the sunset from a beach near our apartment.



Although the days have been fishless, the food has been very good as usual. :)



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« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2008, 12:38:16 PM »

Hey Rod,
I visited Denmark 8 times to spend my Summerholidays up there. It took us a while to figure out how to fish, but we had much success after a while.
Went back last year after staying away for 8 Years and it was just dissapointing... The Cod is almost gone from the shoreline and all the other species like
Flounder, Scole are rare too. Caught at least 2 Seatrout and lots of Garfish and some makerel. It's not that Denmark that it once was...
Go further north to Norway, there is a island called Hitra, caught lots of seatrout here with the flyrod in the shallow bays of the west side. Also tons of
Cod,pollock,flounder... There are some good Lakes on this small Island too. It's worth a try - You might love it!

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Re: Off to Euroland
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2008, 03:06:19 PM »




Although the days have been fishless, the food has been very good as usual. :)




Watch out or you will be putting on weight and no more visits to Cookies on your return. ;D ;D

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Re: Off to Euroland
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2008, 02:08:30 AM »

Hey Rod,
I visited Denmark 8 times to spend my Summerholidays up there. It took us a while to figure out how to fish, but we had much success after a while.
Went back last year after staying away for 8 Years and it was just dissapointing... The Cod is almost gone from the shoreline and all the other species like
Flounder, Scole are rare too. Caught at least 2 Seatrout and lots of Garfish and some makerel. It's not that Denmark that it once was...
Go further north to Norway, there is a island called Hitra, caught lots of seatrout here with the flyrod in the shallow bays of the west side. Also tons of
Cod,pollock,flounder... There are some good Lakes on this small Island too. It's worth a try - You might love it!

Nico

Hi Nick, I think it depends on which part of the country you have been fishing. Some parts are a lot less productive now while fishing at other parts is now much better. They've put in considerable amount of money in Fyn over the last decade on river restoration and hatchery supplement, the result is a vibrant beach sportfishery and local economy. Last year we visited a place around Southeastern part of the country, where fishing was supposed to be very good long ago but not so productive anymore. I had expected very slow fishing already due to the time of the year that I am here, but not having a hit in 30 hours is not so encouraging. ;)

One website that I constantly check out is http://www.fangster.dk, where people enter their catch reports and it seems like people are still catching fair amount of fish, so it must just be me. :-\

The area around Copenhagen Harbour is in fact quite productive, the scenery is just not as nice. Last winter I was able to connect with quite a few good sized sea trout there, including this one in early January.



Norway is definitely one of the places on the fishing list, just not yet. ;)

The sea bass fishing from the beach seems quite fun. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqKTO60uQjA

Watch out or you will be putting on weight and no more visits to Cookies on your return. ;D ;D

More weight is needed so I can stop floating when wading. ;D

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« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2008, 10:55:48 AM »

Hi I live in Norway, and I will be happy to help you. Do you remember what the embelage look's, was it a creame? Peter

HiYa Peter,

Don't recall too much about the product beyond this: It came in a playing card sized paper pouch with Norwegian writing on it. The contents were a powder that you mixed into a glass of cool water where it then dissolved. Mix appeared to completely dissolve as the water again appeared clear. My Buddy said the translation to English was something like Feel Well (could have been Feel Better?). Best hangover remedy I've ever run into, bar none!
Hope you can help, this time of year the problem appears to be re-occurring.

Rod, thanks for looking Buddy! And of course the offer stands re: steelhead ;D

Looks like you're having some Fun over there!

Cheers,
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Re: Off to Euroland
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2008, 01:35:39 PM »

Hi I live in Norway, and I will be happy to help you. Do you remember what the embelage look's, was it a creame? Peter

HiYa Peter,

Don't recall too much about the product beyond this: It came in a playing card sized paper pouch with Norwegian writing on it. The contents were a powder that you mixed into a glass of cool water where it then dissolved. Mix appeared to completely dissolve as the water again appeared clear. My Buddy said the translation to English was something like Feel Well (could have been Feel Better?). Best hangover remedy I've ever run into, bar none!
Hope you can help, this time of year the problem appears to be re-occurring.

Rod, thanks for looking Buddy! And of course the offer stands re: steelhead ;D

Looks like you're having some Fun over there!

Cheers,
Nog

Okey, you have probably been in "Trøndelag", and drinking "karsk" ;D - the medicine you have try was probably "fin i morgen" - this is a medicament who have huge volume of salt and fruit sugar, this works very nice if you drink a lot of water together with it.
You can also have it in a tablet. I can send you some if you send me your address on a private message :D
Cheers
Peter
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Re: Off to Euroland
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2008, 03:18:50 PM »

The wind was blowing hard from the east today, which was perfect as I wanted to fish a spot on the west coast where I couldn’t last week due to the strong head wind. Strong head wind does not only make casting difficult, it stirs up bottom substrates and reduces clarity. With a tailwind, the sea becomes flat and it in fact becomes an advantage when distance is needed in casting.

As usual, it was a misty morning start in Denmark. Temperature hovered at 3 degrees celcius and was expected not to change throughout the day. One couldn’t really ask for better beach fishing condition on a winter day.

I began working the beach with the spinning rod. Spincasting is popularly fished on the beach in Denmark. It allows the angler to cover much larger area and deeper water, so chances of getting into larger sea trout are also increased. Unlike migratory pacific salmon that travel in large masses, these fish school and travel in an irregular pattern. The behaviour is somewhat similar to coastal cutthroat trout, except the travelling space is much larger. To increase success, one can only systematically cover a beach by taking a few step after each cast.

Typical beach lures used while spinning are long, thin yet heavy ones that resemble either herring or sand eel. Combining the retrieving/pausing pattern and the wave motion, their swim becomes rather realistic in the water. These lures weigh between 10 and 30 grams, so they allow the angler to cast them as far as over 200 feet when needed.



Sea trout hunting ground is usually covered with algae (Specifically, fucus, a species of brown algae that tends to dominate the inter and subtidal zones) and rocks. Reefs, as the locals call them, are prime habitat for shrimp, worms and small fish. They hunt by travelling over, in, between the dark substrates. The idea is to work your presentation through them and hopefully it would grab a hunter’s attention.





Exploring these reefs closely with your eyes while fishing can often lead to small yet fascinating discoveries. They are alive with organisms. Snails, starfish, shrimps, jellyfish and barnacles are often sighted. Today I found myself standing next to a juvenile flounder that laid on the bottom comfortably.



After working across a beach for an hour, excitement began to fade as no bites were detected. The outing usually starts with a high anticipation, not a high expectation. After being blanked so many times, I’ve learned that if one shows up with a high expectation in a beach sea trout fishery, then the disappointment at the end of the day may just be too much to handle.

I decided to walk over to a new section slightly further north from my starting point. The ground appeared to be heavily covered, so perhaps there was a trout hiding in it. When the lure approached me on the first retrieve, I noticed a dark clump of matter behind it. My first guess was a clump of weed but I could not feel any additional resistance on the line. A few seconds later, when the lure was much closer to me, I could see that it was in fact a fish following it! I suddenly paused the retrieve and a second fish showed itself beside the first one. Just as they were ready to fight over the piece of metal, I ran out of retrieve space!

At this point, both panic and excitement were having a party in my head. I made another quick short cast beyond where the fish were spotted. As if a pack of wolves had been woken up, a dozen sea trout suddenly darted out from the weed beds and a few small boils could be seen on the surface! Once again, not a single fish committed to a solid bite before I ran out of water to retrieve. Another short cast and retrieve triggered mor fish to chase, but none were tricked. It ended as fast as it started, after three casts all of them disappeared instantly.

I stood there like a fool. Should I continue casting straight out, or move left, or move right? In river fishing, if a fish is spotted, you can pretty much find it again as there is only so much room to cover. It becomes a bit tricky when there are a gazillion litres of water in front of you.

I decided to continue my path and work my way toward north, hoping that I would intercept more fish. Were they sea trout? Perhaps these were escaped rainbow trout from farms. They were after all, chasing and exposing themselves quite blatantly or foolishly as if they were untouchable. Well, they were not touched, so I guess they were more blatant than foolish. Escaped rainbow trout are problematic in European coastal waters. Like any invasive species, they alter the balance on sea trout’s ecosystem. Local anglers believe that rainbow trout farmers purposely lose their fish for insurance claims.

On second thought, I believed they were in fact sea trout. All fish I spotted were estimated to be between 12 and 18 inches long. Their bodies were silver and possess the slender shape that one would see in a natural growth.
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« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2008, 03:25:41 PM »

Ten minutes later, more fish followed the lures during my retrieves and once again none could be tricked. Further north from where it first happened, another fish followed right in again. This time, I decided to drop the lure onto the bottom when I ran out of retrieve space. The fish paused, suspended beside the lure and watched. When I lifted the lure up once and allowed it to flutter, the fish took a light peck at it and sped back into the deep before I had a chance to react!

Somewhat deflated, I kept working across the beach. More fish were spotted for another hour then it all stopped at noon. Perhaps they had decided to move on. Not so, because a few more followers appeared an hour later. This time, I decided to quickly rush back to shore and rig up the fly rod. Originally I had thought that these fish were following in from beyond my flycasting range. After seeing so many, I suspected that they were all sheltering in the reefs just a short distance away from me. Retrieving flies that immitate shrimps is another common method used on the beach. Maybe the large lure was attractive but too big and heavy for the pan-sized trout to ingest. Maybe a size 8 fly would do the trick.



Once I rigged up, I made my way back to the location where I last spotted some fish. I casted toward the nearest reefs and before I even had a chance to anchor my footing, I felt a solid take! The simultaneous feeling of the tug on the rod and the unnoticed slip of flyline through the fingers is always wonderful. Such a solid take could not be mistaken and the natural reflex made sure the fish could not get away. It was a small one, yet I was very delighted. I slowly backed up, making sure I would not trip over the round boulders. A dip in this water on this winter day would end the trip instantly. The fish came in fast, but began aiming for all the algae planted around me. The excitement let the guard down briefly and the little bugger managed to get its way by wrapping around one algae mass. I ran over to free the line as fast as possible but it was too late. I could see it making its way back into the deep while my line was still stuck on the obstacle.

“You gotta be kidding me.”, I thought. What must one do to bring a fish to the beach? I thought persistance is always rewarded. This was like smelling a good meal without eating it, or watching a movie without the ending being shown. You get the idea, the satisfaction of closure is missing! At least I now knew what could tick them off, so back into the water I went. On the fifth cast, another fish grabbed the fly. Both fish were taken as soon as the fly landed in the water before the retrieve, so obviously these fish were hungry. It appeared to be a much bigger fish, judging by the splashing on the surface. Just when I was ready to get even happier, the fly flew straight back at me. Fish number two was now back and returning to the laughing squad in the water.

By this point, I had about one hour of daylight left. I worked through the area where I had seen fish from start to finish one more time with no success. Just as I was walking back to call it a day, I spotted one more fish moving casually by me in the water. The day was not over yet! I grabbed the fly rod, creeped back into the shallows and made one direct cast toward the last place I saw it. After a few strips, I felt a good tug and fish number three was now dancing at the end of the line. It was another small fish, but at this point I could not careless how big the fish was. I managed to capture a photo with my frozen numb hands before sending it back to become those 20lb fish that I often hear about.



Finally, after six hours of teasing and being teased, I gained one point while these fish gained fifty. It also was my first beach sea trout on the fly, which made all that effort very worthwhile. Seeing these fish darting in and out of the dark reefs like ghosts was also another memorable highlight, which will probably taunt me in my dreams for awhile. On my way back to the car, I conversed with two gentlemen who fish the area regularly and told them about my rather exciting experience. After hearing about the small findings, one of them pulled out his digital camera and showed me a 60cm long specimen caught at the same location last week, and another 4kg fish caught just north of us. Perhaps I will find some bigger ones next time too.

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Re: Off to Euroland
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2008, 05:09:02 PM »

Rod-

Excellent fishing story! you are great story teller! Nice to see you get rewarded for your efforts! Keep  at it and I look forward to seeing you with a picture of 20lbs trout very soon!

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« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2008, 09:15:19 PM »

Nice report!

It's always exciting to hear something from up there! Like the Steelhead here, the Seatrout is also called the fish of a thousand casts. It's not peak season right now so you did a great job i think! The best spots are areas that look like the pictures you've posted, called "Leopard Ground". Sandground with areas of rocks and plants. The spoons that you fish imitates a fish called toby or sandeel, long,slim and green-silver coloured. But the smaller ones prefer shrimp, that's why you had success by using it. Don't be scared to fish the murky water and onshore winds, casting is more difficult but very often the fish are cruising around right next to your feet! The waves are washing out their nutritions of the sand and swirl it around. I think i don't have to explain more. The Cod is a nice sportfish too. Use Jigs like twisters in a brown color and retrieve it slow with little jumps very close to the ground in the evening hours. That's when the fish come close to the shoreline to feed. Search for spots where the shoreline is close to deeper water. If you're lucky and you find the fish you will get a reward by several hookups! The area you fish is still very good for Cod! Give it a try... That was my fishery since i moved to Canada this Year and now i got a hard time by trying to be successfull. Caught at least one Spring in the Vedder and later a few Chum after 10 Weeks of catching nothing! But you guys helped me a lot by writing down all the information down in this forum here, thanks for that!

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« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2008, 02:06:42 AM »

Thanks Nico, glad you had some success on the fall salmon before the season ended. Speaking of cod, our place is in fact several hundred metres from the edge of Øresund, the strait that runs between Sweden and Denmark. The nearby beaches produce cod in the evenings according to my friends. We have been focusing on sea trout during the daytime so much that they have been neglected, but I'm hoping to give it a go on a calmer night soon. No sea trout were encountered yesterday but I had a school of sand eels swimming around me for the first time. :)

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« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2008, 04:50:41 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2008, 10:28:00 AM »

"wish all a safe and happy holiday! Enjoy the snow!" from the last post of the blog!!!

We Hate you Rod!!!!! ;D

You have happy new year there too!!! :D


Bravo~
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« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2008, 02:27:58 PM »

Thanks, I had to rub that in. ;)

Here's a little short blog entry for Christmas Eve. :)

For some reason I have been able to connect with a sea trout on either Christmas Eve, Christmas Day or Boxing Day in the past several years. Wanting to maintain that streak of luck, I sneaked down to the Copenhagen Harbour for a couple of hours before the big dinner. After several stormy days, the wind has finally died down and the glassy surface made fish spotting much easier. A few minutes after I set up the rod, I spotted a big splash just outside of my casting distance. I and two other fishing companions all casted toward the direction at the same time. I was at least 50 feet short from the splash while others landed their lures on top of the rise. I guess that the fish was quick on the move and my lure landed right in its face. After a few cranks on the spinning reel, I had a solid pull on the tip and the hook-set was as precise as it could get. The fight lasted a couple of minutes and a fair size sea trout was tailed. It was not the pure silver fish that I had hoped for, but a early Christmas gift from the Danish water nevertheless.