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favorite steelhead/salmon rod for rivers

levelwind
- 50 (48.5%)
center pin
- 53 (51.5%)

Total Members Voted: 101


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Fish Assassin

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Re: level vs pin
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2008, 03:29:39 PM »

Each reel has it's place and time. No one reel is superior. One may prefer beer while the other may prefer wine. All is good folks.
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Re: level vs pin
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2008, 04:09:03 PM »

dennisk you havent seen anything yet, sure enough few people here can retrieve centerpin fast enough

no need to prove to you but when you have your skill go back to this forum else just be quiet

thanks

a newbie like me dont need more craps
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Re: level vs pin
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2008, 04:09:56 PM »

I am open to a contest.
I will bring my stinky little Revo-S (the smallest baitcaster I've seen) and anyone can bring their centre-pins.
We can have a little reel off, if you'd like.
And to make it more interesting we can put $100 in the pot for the winner who can donate his winnings to say,
Seymour Salmonid Society or some other fishing organization of their choice.  ;)
Any takers?


make it a bit bigger $200 maybe ?
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Re: level vs pin
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2008, 07:21:11 PM »

adriaticum & dennisK,

    It doesn't matter what you guys think, it's obvious you guys have never used one or gotten used to using one.

I owned AND used a jw young purist II and a talon 11' 2" custom cp (built by peter) rod for 2 years.

The only thing obvious is you should work for the DFO or RCMP with investigative or intuitive skills like that.
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Re: level vs pin
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2008, 09:02:30 PM »

Just for fun I ran some numbers  :P
I am going to use LRPC, line retrieved per a crank, to compare some reels

JW Young & Sons Trudex II 4.00" dia has an average LRPC of 10"
John Milner Kingfisher 4.375" dia has an average LRPC of 11"

Shimano Calais CL200A has an average LRPC of 26"
Shimano Curado 300DSV has an averag LRPC of 28"
Shimano Calcutta CT200B has an average LRPC of 27"
Shimano Calcutta CT400B has an average LRPC of 24"

Everyone has their preferences when it comes to which reel they choose to use. I have fished with both styles of reels a lot. I like to use my centrepins when it comes to float fishing small streams, because you get such a nice natural drift. I tend to fish a low-profile baitcaster most of the time now because its more versatile. I like being able to switch up to different types of presentations such as float fishing, spoons/spinners or bottom bouncing all with the same reel  ;) Recently I find myself fishing with a fly rod most of the time though  ;D
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Re: level vs pin
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2008, 10:54:21 PM »

adriaticum & dennisK,

    It doesn't matter what you guys think, it's obvious you guys have never used one or gotten used to using one.

I owned AND used a jw young purist II and a talon 11' 2" custom cp (built by peter) rod for 2 years.

The only thing obvious is you should work for the DFO or RCMP with investigative or intuitive skills like that.


Wow....you're good, how did you know I had the skills!!




ChromeKings.. race you to depot?!?!? hahah :P :P :P
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Re: level vs pin
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2008, 11:36:11 PM »

its totally preference, i think that with the speed and grade of the rivers on the west coast in most situations u can get almost if not even as good a drift with a baitcaster as u can with a centerpin, but the challenge of the one 2 one retrieve is awsome.
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Re: level vs pin
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2008, 12:24:40 AM »

the one that's better is the one that you enjoy most using.i find that i lose less fish using center pins since i control the drag and i like casting with it cause of its fluid motion and that's important to me. i don't even own a level wind.as for price difference, well center pins are way more durable so its no contest.
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Re: level vs pin
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2008, 06:44:54 AM »

Just for fun I ran some numbers  :P
I am going to use LRPC, line retrieved per a crank, to compare some reels

JW Young & Sons Trudex II 4.00" dia has an average LRPC of 10"
John Milner Kingfisher 4.375" dia has an average LRPC of 11"

Shimano Calais CL200A has an average LRPC of 26"
Shimano Curado 300DSV has an averag LRPC of 28"
Shimano Calcutta CT200B has an average LRPC of 27"
Shimano Calcutta CT400B has an average LRPC of 24"

Everyone has their preferences when it comes to which reel they choose to use. I have fished with both styles of reels a lot. I like to use my centrepins when it comes to float fishing small streams, because you get such a nice natural drift. I tend to fish a low-profile baitcaster most of the time now because its more versatile. I like being able to switch up to different types of presentations such as float fishing, spoons/spinners or bottom bouncing all with the same reel  ;) Recently I find myself fishing with a fly rod most of the time though  ;D

Thanks for the info.

Every reel has its time and place. Ultimately it's all about the fun.
I wasn't denying that. And dennisK wasn't either.
We were just replying to someone's post there that said they can cover as much water as a levelwind as fast.
Then this whole thing spiraled into a useless argument.
In terms of retrieve, the physics are just not in favour of the centre pin.

Anyway I bet you, most of the guys on the post own at least 1 or 2 of each kind  ;)
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Re: level vs pin
« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2008, 09:01:23 AM »

Wow, now that I know cp's cast better and cover more water, I guess I'll have to switch out my curados for cp's on the local bass circuit ;) ;D
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Re: level vs pin
« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2008, 12:39:17 PM »

Interesting topic,

  When fishing a pin if you reel in normally with your hand always on the handle then a level wind will definatley win, However if you pull your rod up and bring a bunch of line in, then giving your pin a big spin, it will reel in the slack line much faster than what a levelwind can. If you repeat this 2-3 times you can actually beat a level-wind!

  Me and my brother were wondering about this last year and did the tests! ;)
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Re: level vs pin
« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2008, 01:32:29 PM »

Interesting topic,

  When fishing a pin if you reel in normally with your hand always on the handle then a level wind will definatley win, However if you pull your rod up and bring a bunch of line in, then giving your pin a big spin, it will reel in the slack line much faster than what a levelwind can. If you repeat this 2-3 times you can actually beat a level-wind!

  Me and my brother were wondering about this last year and did the tests! ;)



 ;) :D :-X  SSHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! :-X .Hey Roe Kid.you are spoiling our fun. ;) :D ;D
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Re: level vs pin
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2008, 03:41:31 PM »

its ok ghost fish....you still can claim the $100 from roe kid...
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Re: level vs pin
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2008, 05:00:52 PM »

 ;D sorry  I had to spit it out! I was getting frustrated with some people saying level winds can bring line in faster than a cp ;D
« Last Edit: November 28, 2008, 05:03:19 PM by THE_ROE_KID »
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Re: level vs pin
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2008, 12:25:58 PM »

I put my level wind on a 14' spey rod and use the rod to jerk the line in also.  It really flies.  BTW, it looks like level winds are 1 vote ahead.   ;D ;D ;D
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