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A important message from the Steelhead Society of B.C.
« on: January 15, 2009, 03:42:56 PM »

A chance for all our voices to be heard at once.

Most of us are well aware that steelhead stocks in B.C. are. declining and that very little help is being given to these fish from the government.  In light of the upcoming Provincial election, at their monthly meeting, the directors and officers of the Steelhead Society agreed, that there is an important window of opportunity for all BC steelheaders to voice their displeasure with the mismanagement of steelhead stocks. We feel that a mass e-mail campaign is a great way to start the ball rolling.
 
The provincial election is scheduled for May and politicians have their ears open now, more than at any other time, to the voice of the voters.  Below you will find a copy of all the current BC MLAs’ email addresses, including those of the premier and the opposition leaders.  On Feb. 1, 2009 we are asking all of you who are concerned with the plight of steelhead in the province to email a letter to every MLA in the province.  A deluge of e-mails voicing the concerns of voters on one day cannot be ignored. Again, Feb. 1, 2009 is the day.
 
Below is a brief form letter that can be copied and pasted, making it easy for those who are pressed for time or not quite sure what to say.  It is recommended that people try and write their own individual letters as those do hold a bit more weight than a form letter. Jason Tonelli, the President of the Steelhead Society, will be writing a separate letter on behalf of the Society that further outlines our concerns.  This is a chance to grab the ears of those in government that we should not pass up.  We strongly encourage all who are willing to participate to spread the word of this e-mail blitz.
 
I would also like to ask that any discussion that follows this stay positive and constructive. Thank you.  Brian Braidwood Vice President Steelhead Society of BC








As a steelhead fisherman in British Columbia, I am extremely concerned by the provincial government's complete neglect of the plight of this great fish. Thanks to a steady pattern of government cut backs, there is an incredible lack of core funding available for this resource. After an election promise of the “the best fisheries management, bar none” I would have expected to see more funds made available for protection and enhancement of steelhead in the province. Instead I have seen the opposite. The number of people assigned to steelhead management throughout the province has dwindled to an embarrassing few. A mere fraction of what there once was. Once there were more people working on steelhead management on Vancouver Island then there now are in the in entire Province.  "The best fisheries management bar none"?  I am still waiting for that to happen.

Steelhead are an extremely valuable recreational sport fish. To many, the pursuit of them is a way of life! I, and a multitude of others, travel all across this great province in pursuit of steelhead.  Along the way we spend money in local tackle shops, hotels, pubs and restaurants, often in small towns during off-peak seasons. Gas is put in vehicles; boats and motors are purchased.  All of this money is spent in the pursuit of steelhead, providing employment and income to local BC residents and businesses. For many of these businesses, steelheaders are the major source of income for much of the off-season.  Anglers travel from all over the globe to come to BC and fish for the largest wild steelhead to be found on earth.  Will they (and the funds they bring) still come, once the steelhead have been ignored into extinction? The amount of money that recreational fishing contributes to the provincial economy is very significant, but if the fish disappear, so too will that revenue. It seems that the economic benefits of the recreational angling for steelhead are totally ignored by the government when it comes to investing money into the fishery that generates such considerable value!

The government insists anglers purchase a fishing license and a steelhead tag in order to fish for steelhead. This should mean that the government is responsible for steelhead, yet the government is ignoring this responsibility! The anglers of this Province have long been fighting for this fish, spending their own money and time with little or no government support.  Is this government willing to increase the funding for steelhead protection?  Funding for more staff dealing with steelhead issues, funding for necessary habitat work, funding for studying, and stocking steelhead. These fish are in dire straits and need the government’s help.

The party that commits to support these fish will be the one supported with a vote from me!




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Re: A important message from the Steelhead Society of B.C.
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2009, 05:04:00 PM »

As noted above...

Keep in mind, people - we're aiming to have this sent in on February 1, 2009!

Not today, not in a few months, but on February 1.  A large flood of emails all on one day is the point of this.

Cheers!
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Tex - will be writing his own letter based on the one above.

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Re: A important message from the Steelhead Society of B.C.
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2009, 06:56:34 PM »

WELL DONE Jetboat.

I'm impressed!
Will do what I can.
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Re: A important message from the Steelhead Society of B.C.
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2009, 10:50:03 PM »

I don't think Rod will have a problem with me making it a Sticky Thread.
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Re: A important message from the Steelhead Society of B.C.
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2009, 10:24:06 AM »

Thanks for posting Jetboatjim. You can bet I'll send it in.
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Re: A important message from the Steelhead Society of B.C.
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2009, 11:06:52 AM »

I've got my version ready to post, even though I can't vote yet.
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Re: A important message from the Steelhead Society of B.C.
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2009, 12:54:41 PM »

All set JBJ, let's let our voices and concerns be heard. Not that it will change much with this motley crew, but it's the best solution I've heard yet. One thing I've learned is that those with power fear losing that power, not to mention great pension and pay benefits. Good job Jetboat.
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Re: A important message from the Steelhead Society of B.C.
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2009, 09:17:31 PM »

Jim, have you guys started a facebook group  ???  That also might be helpful in spreading the word to people who do not know about these sites. I will be emailing all of my friends that fish and that care. I will have my copy ready to send on the 1st.

Great to know that something is being done.
Hopefully ALL, THAT MEANS EVERYONE on this forum sends one in. That is 3200 emails people! Every single one counts. Don't let this pass up.
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Re: A important message from the Steelhead Society of B.C.
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2009, 08:46:06 PM »

As noted above...

Keep in mind, people - we're aiming to have this sent in on February 1, 2009!

Not today, not in a few months, but on February 1.  A large flood of emails all on one day is the point of this.

Cheers!
:D
Tex - will be writing his own letter based on the one above.


As an technology professional here is my 2 cents on this.

If you intend to flood someone's email you will be blacklisted and the emails will end up in Junk Mail or not get through to the recipient.
Even if it reaches the recipient it will look like another Viagra, Cialis email to them, if they see a mass of emails with similar subject/content.
You will accomplish nothing.
There are legions of guys, like me, trying to prevent mass email campaigns from reaching the intended recipients. (SPAM)
You are better off sending few emails a day.

Not trying to be a party pooper.
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Re: A important message from the Steelhead Society of B.C.
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2009, 11:43:55 PM »

As noted above...

Keep in mind, people - we're aiming to have this sent in on February 1, 2009!

Not today, not in a few months, but on February 1.  A large flood of emails all on one day is the point of this.

Cheers!
:D
Tex - will be writing his own letter based on the one above.


As an technology professional here is my 2 cents on this.

If you intend to flood someone's email you will be blacklisted and the emails will end up in Junk Mail or not get through to the recipient.
Even if it reaches the recipient it will look like another Viagra, Cialis email to them, if they see a mass of emails with similar subject/content.
You will accomplish nothing.
There are legions of guys, like me, trying to prevent mass email campaigns from reaching the intended recipients. (SPAM)
You are better off sending few emails a day.

Not trying to be a party pooper.
As another technical professional I'd suggest you reaxamine what a blacklist is.  Blacklists are IP based, for blocking offending servers. So all these Shaw, Telus, (ISP) based email accounts are going to get thier ISP's email server blacklisted for sending an email to multiple recipients?  I don't think so.  While its possible to get blacklisted if they origininated a mass spam from thier own email server, and then only if someone listed it, it isn't going to happen since the vast majority of users are not sending email from thier own server. 

Also the reason it won't get blocked like VIagra and CIAlis spams do, is that many of the better engines use dummy accounts to harvest spam messages, knowing that any unsolicited email to these accounts doesn't belong and is spam.  Since this email doesn't fit that rule it won't get blocked.

What is possible is that the recieving server may rejected the spam as spam from recieving the flood of similar email with the same subject line, or a key phrase, if it's configured to keep track of incoming email and rank it, which a quick check will tell you it is (MIMESweeper v5.3.1.2323), however even the makers say it's only 99.5% effective.

The other possibility for it getting blocked is some over zealous geek at the ministry has heard about the email and has already added a rule to the server to block the message based on it's subject, or a key phrase.  Tough to do though, if you change the subject line, and the content.

So folks, change the form off the letter, and especially the subject line. That's one of the tricks all those viagra messages use to get through the spam filters- they mis-spell viagra, so the spam filter can't use a key word to block the message.

It can't hurt to make the email more personal anyway, as it has a better chance of being read, or considered a legit concern from a legit voter.

If you really want to have fun with it, send an individual message to each receipient, save it as a draft so it's ready to go, then send it on the date. (make copy paste your friend)  Or if you know how, and are using something like outlook for you email client, you can also do that all in advance and set outlook to send the email at a later date, so long as your outlook is left open. (right click on the message in your drafts, click options, set the do not delvier before option), then send it, it will sit in your outbox and send on the sate you tell it to.  Just don't open it once it''s in your outbox, as it won't send until you hit the send button again. 

So make sure each email a little different.  It has the added benefit of increasing the load on the server, far more than just sending one email to mutliple receipients and takes up more server space.

You can also add a delivery reciept/ read reciept if you like, though those are usually blocked, it might tell you if it was delivered to the server. (also increase the server load a little bit more)

Chances are though it will pass the spam filters just fine until some minsiter complains, and a geek goes and addresses the issue. Even then will be tough to block, since it's from a valid server, from a valid account, and doesn't meet the normal tests to rank it as spam, other than it being the multiple messages with similar content.  Plus if it got out that an official was blocking protest letters, it would not make for good press.
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Re: A important message from the Steelhead Society of B.C.
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2009, 08:56:59 PM »

work2fish, I know exactly how blacklists work.
Term blacklist doesn't only refer to sbl/xbl... you can blacklist a recipient, domain, an ip block, what ever you want.
So blacklist are not only ip based.
Blacklist refers to 'undesirable'.

Blacklist/greylist bla bla bla...
You are getting too technical for the target audience, this is a fishing web site , not anti-spam consortium.
You are right about the zealous geeks, they are many and they are paid good money to keep this kind of stuff away, so if they see 20 emails with the same subject they will block it. Government pays them especially well with your money.  ;)
You also missed my point.
Which is, if you send many emails with of the same content/subject, it will not be read by the recipient.
Period.
Even if it reaches their mailbox.
This has to do more with psychology, then with technology.
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Re: A important message from the Steelhead Society of B.C.
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2009, 11:02:17 AM »

work2fish, I know exactly how blacklists work.
Term blacklist doesn't only refer to sbl/xbl... you can blacklist a recipient, domain, an ip block, what ever you want.
So blacklist are not only ip based.
Blacklist refers to 'undesirable'.

Blacklist/greylist bla bla bla...
You are getting too technical for the target audience, this is a fishing web site , not anti-spam consortium.
You are right about the zealous geeks, they are many and they are paid good money to keep this kind of stuff away, so if they see 20 emails with the same subject they will block it. Government pays them especially well with your money.  ;)
You also missed my point.
Which is, if you send many emails with of the same content/subject, it will not be read by the recipient.
Period.
Even if it reaches their mailbox.
This has to do more with psychology, then with technology.
Your right the terminology has gotten a lot "sloppier" though blacklisting still typically refers to IP blocking.  (http://www.blacklistmonitoring.com/email_blacklist_articles/email_blacklist_terminology.html) While it might be too technical for the audience, I'd rather assume people are smart and can figure things out, than assume they are too stupid to understand and provide misleading information.

My point though was more along the lines of don't just poo-poo what they are trying to do, at least offer some suggestions to make them more successful.  While it's true a mass email campain will probably result in most of the letters being unread, the point of the exercise is to draw attention to the issue through a flood of email, as suggested by the society.  They get one letter and read it, and then realize realize that each subsequent letter is a part of a campaign.  The number of letters illustrating the level of concern.  It's similar to the mass letter writing campains done around all sorts of issues, which have been successful before (see Amnesty international).  While it's true that not all of the letters will be read even if they receive only a few dozen (not the hundreds or thousands they are hoping for), it will still draw attention to the issue on public sentiment, and may be reacted to favorably.

So again, to be more successful,

- If you don't have time to put the letter in your own words, at least change the subject line so it's less likely to be filtered
- Change the letter to be in your own words if you can, if you do
- Keep the letter short and to the point (more likely to get read)
- Put your address on the letter (let them know you vote in their area)
- Close the letter telling them how you will weigh their response to the issue.
-Thank them for taking the time to listen
- Ask for a reply
- Address the letter nicely, "The Honorable (first name) (last name).  The salutation should read "Dear (elected position) (last name)".
- Followup.  Wait two weeks or a month, and send a second letter, with a copy of your original asking for/why you have not gotten a response, or reply to their response
- Snail mail a copy of your letter.
-for added effect, write the local papers "to the editor".

If you want the email to have more effect on their server (more strain)
-send to each person an individual email (create one, save it in your drafts and modify it)
-put a read/delivery receipt on the message
-change each message slightly, especially the subject line (eg: use the name you are sending to)   
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Re: A important message from the Steelhead Society of B.C.
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2009, 05:37:44 PM »

get ready to send your letters.....the 1 st is tomorrow/sunday.
thank you, all steelheaders
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Re: A important message from the Steelhead Society of B.C.
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2009, 01:02:25 PM »

My email is sent. Is yours?
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