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[daver]

hey, has anyone seen the video "the obama deception"? just saw it and was blown away, i think everybody should take a few mins and  google it and educate themselves. take care all

[johnny]

lol!!


 That's some mighty fine koolaid you're pushin!!

[ja]

There a link or summary of what it's about?

[daver]

koolaid....  ok, is your opinion based on what you took out of the movie, or is it an ignorant, naive comment blindly made to discredit the information. I usually take what i get off the internet with a grain of salt, but i feel it is really scary that our future is being determined by a few people. For sure there is alot of crazy theories floating around online, but if you did a little homework, a checked a few of the facts laid out in the movie, you can see that there is much truth to what you are shown. What are the Bilderbergs, the CFR. It kills me that when i watch the morning news here in BC, that Britney Spears makes the headlines, the Octomom is on every channel, there are shows like Entertainment tonight and extra that focus on celebrities, who really cares what clothes someone is wearing, how does that really matter to anyone. It is dumbing down the population. Americas next top model... are  you fricken kidding me!!  the real issues are being overshadowed  by nonsence, and we just sit blindly back and let it happen.
google, run of the rivers project, that affects us as fisherman, read up about it, i believe  in free enterprise and that private companies should be able to make money, but when things are done behind the publics back, where do we draw the line?
look in to some of the executive orders Bush passed through out his terms, some such as forced immunizations, why would they ever have to force an immunization?? he authorized  illegal wiretapping and torture in the name of homeland security which blatantly go against the geneva conventions and the us constitutions. he also passed legislation which protects people and companies which allow these illegal acts, not to mention giving himself immunity from prosecution for his involvement. these are just a few items, some have had very little media attention.
i am gonna come off as a paranoid conspiracy theorist and if you view me as one without doing any research for youself, then shame on you. i am passionate  about my beliefs, i work hard, i want my wife and kid to have a good life and it angers me when i feel i really have no control over what lies ahead. so if you blow this off, fine, thats your prerogative, but knowledge is power.

[alwaysfishn]

lol!!

 That's some mighty fine koolaid you're pushin!!

Funny........ 

Rather than discounting this, the public should keep their eyes open.  Although I'm not buying everything that's being sold in this clip, I'm glad that there are people like this out there telling their conspiracy theories. I like Obama, but I'm always leery of a great salesman. I believe you can sell ice to eskimos if you are a good enough salesman!

It's a good listen if you have 30 minutes or so.... 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7886780711843120756

[Pat AV]

Guys we can't vote down there so I am not too sure what we can do, I am not sure how a letter writing campain or pettition generated by non voters would be received as pressure from any government.

We are better off thinking forward to May when the governmet that brought you large scale fish farming, huge cutbacks in environmental/fisheries budget and private run of the river power projects is looking to be re-ellected.

In my personal opinion save worrying about Obama for our friends down south, we have Gordon to worry about up here and right now is a critical time for the future of fishing in our back yard.

[greybark]

  I am a political news junkie and regardless of your political leanings this clip is the finest example of "Cherry PIcking " clips , superimposing them with a "Select" visual clips . This is candy for those with a smattering of what is realy happening . Absolute "PABLUM" !!!!!!!
   I recoqnize almost all of the clips as they occurred and believe me they are out of order , incomplete and completely out of context  with the original presantation in the way they are presented ....... There is a hard Left and Right political posture and "Reality" someware in the middle , this is off the charts ....

Hey AlwaysFishing , released a (est) 22 pounder the other day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Cheers

[alwaysfishn]

Hey Greybark good to hear from you......   and way to highjack this thread with something thats really important! 

A 22 lb steelie...   wow!!

[marmot]

You can find "facts" to support anything if you want to.  UFOs, 2012, Elvis, you name it.  These "deck of card" arguments are always good for a laugh

Daver I do agree with you that there is a ton of garbage in the media, with the fox network being the worst polluter....but a conspiracy to keep the public dumbed down?  Simplest argument is not that all the networks are being run by a bipartisan group with mind control of the populace at their primary goal.....the simplest argument is that there are a lot of stupid people out there that like shows made for stupid people.

[daver]

true enough, but with a little bit of research, you can find that almost all media in the us is tied to one another through the CFR and when a small few people control what you read or watch, one has to think that a little bit of influence is being applied.
 here is a quote from david rockefeller, now if this is being taken out of context, please tell me how Greybark. this stuff actually happens, dont kid yourself.

"The Council on Foreign Relations co-sponsors an assembly Rethinking America's Security: Beyond Cold War to New World Order which is attended by 65 prestigious members of government, labor, academia, the media, military, and the professions from nine countries. Later, several of the conference participants joined some 100 other world leaders for another closed door meeting of the Bilderberg Society in Baden Baden, Germany. The Bilderbergers also exert considerable clout in determining the foreign policies of their respective governments. While at that meeting, David Rockefeller  [co-founder (with   Zbigniew Brzezinski) of the Trilateral Commission] said in a speech:

    'We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination [read as 'democracy'] practiced in past centuries."

       --June 5, 1991, Bilderberger meeting in Baden Baden, Germany (a meeting also attended by then-Governor Bill Clinton)www.mega.nu/ampp/bilderberg.html.