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Are you voting "yes" or "no" on STV?

I'm voting YES
- 29 (51.8%)
I'm voting NO
- 27 (48.2%)

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alwaysfishn

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Are you voting "Yes" or "No" for STV??
« on: May 05, 2009, 07:37:30 PM »
I'm curious what people think of the single transferable vote (STV) system that we are being asked to vote for on May 12th? I've read their education page http://www.stv.ca/learn and I think I understand it better.  ???

What are your thoughts?
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Re: Are you voting "Yes" or "No" for STV??
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2009, 08:44:15 PM »
Im going to check yes !
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Re: Are you voting "Yes" or "No" for STV??
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2009, 08:55:21 PM »
no
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Re: Are you voting "Yes" or "No" for STV??
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2009, 08:56:14 PM »
no
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Re: Are you voting "Yes" or "No" for STV??
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2009, 09:15:18 PM »
One thing I beleive is that no government is perfect and both sides spew rhetoric.....lot's of rhetoric. The real outcomes of electing either party are probably closer than we think. Either way don't think of youtube as a factual source of information; try and do some more research. Whichever party you do vote for, vote no on STV; that has to be the scariest proposal that happen to this province.
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Re: Are you voting "Yes" or "No" for STV??
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2009, 09:33:52 PM »
no
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Re: Are you voting "Yes" or "No" for STV??
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2009, 09:36:01 PM »
Why 'yes' and why 'no'?  I don't think many people know what is good or bad about it.

I think I'm voting yes because it seems to be a fairer system than we have now. I think it will result in more minority governments, which I think are more democratic. The current system allows one of the 2 major parties to come in with a majority and then they spend the next 4 years undoing what the previous government did. The proposed system would give a party like the greens a seat or 2...  I think they have some good ideas as well. Heck it might even get the BC Conservatives a seat or 2.

I just don't see anything really negative about it. What am I missing?
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Re: Are you voting "Yes" or "No" for STV??
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2009, 10:15:36 PM »
Voting no for the many reasons that are mentioned on the vote no STV web site.
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Re: Are you voting "Yes" or "No" for STV??
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2009, 10:24:47 PM »
Undecided
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Re: Are you voting "Yes" or "No" for STV??
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2009, 06:13:12 AM »
NO
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Re: Are you voting "Yes" or "No" for STV??
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2009, 06:53:53 AM »
I found this website that simulates how the STV vote works. It is not designed to predict who will win in your riding and the results will vary over time as more people try it out. It's a simulation......   It helped me understand it a bit more.

Check it out: http://bc.demochoice.org/
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Re: Are you voting "Yes" or "No" for STV??
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2009, 06:59:07 AM »
Quote from: chris gadsden on May 05, 2009, 10:15:36 PM
Voting no for the many reasons that are mentioned on the vote no STV web site.

Have you checked out the "vote yes" web site?
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Re: Are you voting "Yes" or "No" for STV??
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2009, 08:08:56 AM »
No to STV. Why? STV = more pigs on the trough and more bureaucrats.

If you look into other courtiers that have coalition governments you will quickly find that they get less done because they spend more time squabbling over party political interests and agendas. The only country I know of where coalitions work is Switzerland because there the government is powerless as all decisions are made by the people at the ballot box.
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Re: Are you voting "Yes" or "No" for STV??
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2009, 08:38:49 AM »
No - this system is designed for the benefit of political parties and the political system, not the electorate.  It will take a lot more people to organize and run, and a lot more candidates.  Only countries that use it are a fraction the size of BC.  It will become a battle of the experts to decide who wins what.  And if you have an issue, do you now write to the 7 MLA's in your riding?  I'm sure they will all be more responsive  ::)
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Re: Are you voting "Yes" or "No" for STV??
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2009, 08:41:52 AM »
I'm voting yes, as it seems to provide more proportional representation. For convenience, here are the links to the yes and no websites:
Yes: http://www.bc-stv.ca/
No: http://www.nostv.org/
Original Report from the Citizen's Assembly: http://www.citizensassembly.bc.ca/public

Read them all, and make up your own mind.  The TV commercials don't provide enough info either way.

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