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Terry D

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Rising Sea Levels - Who Is Right
« on: May 26, 2009, 10:41:00 AM »

Just read this very interesting article which debunks the politician's mantra on climate change and rising sea levels: http://www.nzcpr.com/guest147.htm.
It's a bit of a read but sounds a lot of sense to me and, the author doesn't seem to have any particular axe to grind on this.
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Re: Rising Sea Levels - Who Is Right
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2009, 05:54:41 PM »

I haven't read the article so I can't comment on its content but the URL caught my attention so I did a quick google search.  The website/think tank's founder is Muriel Newman who is a former MP for the ACT New Zealand which "is a political party in New Zealand that espouses free market classical liberalism in the New Zealand Parliament."

I generally avoid reading articles from sites with strong political bias no matter what side of the spectrum they are from.
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Re: Rising Sea Levels - Who Is Right
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2009, 04:24:20 PM »

Similarly, I avoid reading articles from politicians.
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Re: Rising Sea Levels - Who Is Right
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2009, 02:43:51 PM »

I haven't read the article so I can't comment on its content but the URL caught my attention so I did a quick google search.  The website/think tank's founder is Muriel Newman who is a former MP for the ACT New Zealand which "is a political party in New Zealand that espouses free market classical liberalism in the New Zealand Parliament."

I generally avoid reading articles from sites with strong political bias no matter what side of the spectrum they are from.
Good point , shoot the messenger , that way you don't need to refute his evidence.
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Re: Rising Sea Levels - Who Is Right
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2009, 02:48:33 PM »

 Now what side doesn't have a biased slant in this ? The United Nations and Al Gore are the biggest drivers in this Global Warming theory , now tell me those are not poltical ties.
When you go down to Richmond and walk on the dyke , just how much higher is the water on the  dyke then it was 30 years ago ? Seems to me not a whole lot of dyke raising has been required on account of rising sea levels , but  the "experts" from the UN tell us it is so it must be so.
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Re: Rising Sea Levels - Who Is Right
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2009, 05:45:39 PM »

Chunks of ice are falling off from Antarctica to Greenland and eventually you will notice.

Global warming is a fact, the Pine Beetle situation proves it.

The deniers use and pay the same scientists that claim tobacco is not harmful..

Greedy Capitalists and Corporatists are among the strongest deniers, especially those in the oil industry and those that do not like to share or spread their wealth with their employees or society. It is all about money with them and to heck with the people or environment, it is make all you can as fast as you can and the environment and people be dammed. Just look at what those types  have done all over the world from clear cutting, polluting, destroying other countries, usually 3rd world countries environment and treat the people that 'work' for them like slaves.

That is why guys like Chavez, Morales, Castro etc deserve medals as they stand up to these  buggers. yet like anyone that stands up to big money you usually get branded as a dictator or commie from the White House propaganda machine that is backed by big money. Individual people are branded as 'conspiracy nuts' and the media does as it is told. It is bought and paid for. There are no real journalists anymore or real news with main stream media, especially in North America. Just read the same story from Canada/US and the same in Europe very different.

Big Oil, the Bankers and greedy politicians who get 'donations' from these scumbags are the reason the planet is in such a mess from social issues to the environment. Their greed and selfishness will be the death of us all and it is foolish to believe otherwise. People need to start opening their eyes.

  Not to mention most conservative, republican and people that vote for right wing parties tend to be the deniers. Too bad they wont live long enough to see what their in action will cause and regret it but their children and grandchildren sure will.
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Re: Rising Sea Levels - Who Is Right
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2009, 08:31:06 AM »

 Thank you salmon river for demonstrating that everyone is very biased. You just provided the extreme left point of view to a tee.
The ice has always been breaking off at those places , where do ya think ice bergs come from? At any rate if the extreme projections were true , it would take 3000 years for those two places to melt . Not that we'd have to ever worry about rising sea levels in our great grand children's life times even in that scenario .
You don't like the commie branding but your language sounds, oh , so remarkably the same as that of the Bolsheviks in 1917 railing against Capitalists and all . ::)
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Re: Rising Sea Levels - Who Is Right
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2009, 09:55:54 AM »

Many years ago in the UK, a unionist would have to be a socialist (left wing Labour supporter) but there were some unionists who were Conservatives (right wing).  In my humble opinion, the unionists and the loony left ruined our country.  Ever since I've been able to vote I've been right wing (as they were the only party that supported people in the Armed Forces) but I've also been an angler and I've always tried to do things that care for our environment.  Some will say you can't vote left or right (to run the country) and vote for the environment as well.  I'm happy with the votes I made. 
Incidently, I'm not a Canadian citizen, yet, so I'm not allowed to vote here.
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