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chris gadsden

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Re: 2009 Fraser River sockeye updates
« Reply #75 on: August 10, 2009, 07:18:02 PM »

Rodney do you know if this means that there will be a leader restriction in place?
I am sure they will be asking all rec anglers to fish selectively as they did a couple of years back, meaning no BB. If there is lack of compliance, well you know the answer.

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Re: 2009 Fraser River sockeye updates
« Reply #76 on: August 10, 2009, 11:04:05 PM »

I am sure they will be asking all rec anglers to fish selectively as they did a couple of years back, meaning no BB. If there is lack of compliance, well you know the answer.

so if the river closes BB is to blame? sounds like the BB'rs are about to get framed :o Chris, just curious but a few years back did they just ask people to kindly comply or did they actually regulate it (issue tickets for BB)?
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Re: 2009 Fraser River sockeye updates
« Reply #77 on: August 10, 2009, 11:06:27 PM »

so if the river closes BB is to blame? sounds like the BB'rs are about to get framed :o

No, if catch and release of sockeye salmon by any method becomes more frequent than DFO would like to see, then more management measures would be implemented.

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Re: 2009 Fraser River sockeye updates
« Reply #78 on: August 11, 2009, 06:39:25 AM »

I think we can live without sockeye as we did before they were opened in the 1990's.

Certainly we can live without them. However as long as they are being caught and sold illegally by some of the FN groups it makes no sense (economical or logically) to prevent sports fishermen from catching and keeping sockeye.

Unlike Chris's promises on bb'ing, I promise to keep bringing up this issue.......   ;D
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Re: 2009 Fraser River sockeye updates
« Reply #79 on: August 11, 2009, 02:32:58 PM »

I did a comparison for the Blinkhorn test fishery for Sockeye for years 2006, 2008 & 2009.

DATE   LOCATION   SOCKEYE      DATE   LOCATION   SOCKEYE      DATE   LOCATION   SOCKEYE
                              
Aug 02 2009   Fine Beach   170      Aug 02 2006   Blinkhorn   38      Aug 02 2008   Robson Bight   1
Aug 02 2009   Glory Hole   60      Aug 02 2006   Robson Bight   455      Aug 02 2008   Glory Hole   11
Aug 02 2009   Izumi Rock   1      Aug 02 2006   Glory Hole   135      Aug 02 2008   Cracroft Point   0
Aug 02 2009   Green Shack   450      Aug 02 2006   Sophia/Splash Island   7      Aug 02 2008   Izumi Rock   54
Aug 02 2009   Blinkhorn   320      Aug 02 2006   Izumi Rock   35      Aug 02 2008   Hot Spot   0
Aug 03 2009   Blinkhorn   61      Aug 02 2006   Hillier Point   56      Aug 02 2008   Gravel Beach   4
Aug 03 2009   Robson Bight   54      Aug 05 2006   Hot Spot   485      Aug 03 2008   Robson Bight   20
Aug 03 2009   Glory Hole   52      Aug 05 2006   Glory Hole   380      Aug 03 2008   Glory Hole   9
Aug 03 2009   Izumi Rock   36      Aug 05 2006   Robson Bight   200      Aug 03 2008   Gravel Beach   12
Aug 03 2009   Hot Spot   93      Aug 05 2006   Izumi Rock   36      Aug 03 2008   Izumi Rock   31
Aug 03 2009   Green Shack   50      Aug 05 2006   Cracroft Point   0      Aug 03 2008   Green Shack   46
Aug 04 2009   Fine Beach   194      Aug 05 2006   Blinkhorn   1,030      Aug 03 2008   Blinkhorn   89
Aug 04 2009   Robson Bight   35      Aug 06 2006   Glory Hole   500      Aug 04 2008   Glory Hole   99
Aug 04 2009   Sophia/Splash Island   0      Aug 06 2006   Robson Bight   1,030      Aug 04 2008   Robson Bight   81
Aug 04 2009   Glory Hole   50      Aug 06 2006   Neekis Bay   475      Aug 04 2008   Fine Beach   17
Aug 04 2009   Izumi Rock   106      Aug 06 2006   Sophia/Splash Island   0      Aug 04 2008   Izumi Rock   16
Aug 04 2009   Green Shack   45      Aug 06 2006   Izumi Rock   230      Aug 04 2008   Hot Spot   18
Aug 09 2009   Robson Bight   84      Aug 06 2006   Blinkhorn   215      Aug 04 2008   Blinkhorn   41
Aug 09 2009   Glory Hole   170      Aug 07 2006   Glory Hole   210      Aug 05 2008   Robson Bight   5
Aug 09 2009   Gravel Beach   260      Aug 07 2006   Neekis Bay   420      Aug 05 2008   Glory Hole   65
Aug 09 2009   Sophia/Splash Island   0      Aug 07 2006   Robson Bight   2,330      Aug 05 2008   Izumi Rock   35
Aug 09 2009   Izumi Rock   453      Aug 07 2006   Izumi Rock   300      Aug 05 2008   Hot Spot   36
Aug 09 2009   Blinkhorn   128      Aug 07 2006   Green Shack   0      Aug 05 2008   Cracroft Point   0
Aug 10 2009   Fine Beach   38      Aug 07 2006   Gravel Beach   190      Aug 05 2008   Green Shack   72
Aug 10 2009   Robson Bight   86      Aug 08 2006   Fine Beach   1,700      Aug 10 2008   Blinkhorn   5
Aug 10 2009   Glory Hole   730      Aug 08 2006   Glory Hole   2      Aug 10 2008   Hot Spot   10
Aug 10 2009   Sophia/Splash Island   2      Aug 08 2006   Izumi Rock   610      Aug 10 2008   Robson Bight   49
Aug 10 2009   Hot Spot   146      Aug 08 2006   Gravel Beach   240      Aug 10 2008   Glory Hole   13
Aug 10 2009   Green Shack   62      Aug 08 2006   Sophia/Splash Island   41      Aug 10 2008   Gravel Beach   2
Aug 11 2009   Robson Bight   123      Aug 08 2006   Blinkhorn   640      Aug 10 2008   Green Shack   50
Aug 11 2009   Glory Hole   189      Aug 11 2006   Blinkhorn   1,350      Aug 11 2008   Neekis Bay   10
Aug 11 2009   Izumi Rock   235      Aug 11 2006   Robson Bight   970      Aug 11 2008   Robson Bight   0
Aug 11 2009   Hot Spot   129      Aug 11 2006   Hot Spot   6,000      Aug 11 2008   Glory Hole   5
Aug 11 2009   Green Shack   25      Aug 11 2006   Sophia/Splash Island   1      Aug 11 2008   Izumi Rock   20
            Aug 11 2006   Izumi Rock   143      Aug 11 2008   Green Shack   50
            Aug 11 2006   Green Shack   29      Aug 11 2008   Blinkhorn   13

      4637            20483            989

Didn't think it would format properly but look at the totals at the bottom:

2009 - 4637
2006 - 20483 (the last big year)
2008 - 989    (5 day opening last year)

While the numbers aren't great compared to 2006, they are well up from last year and there was an opening last year.

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Re: 2009 Fraser River sockeye updates
« Reply #80 on: August 11, 2009, 03:44:08 PM »

Tuesday, August 11, 2009

The Fraser River Panel met Tuesday, August 11 to receive an update on the migration of the Fraser River sockeye and pink salmon runs and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.

Test fishing catches of sockeye continued to track far below expectations over the last several days. At the meeting today, the run size estimate for Early Summer-run sockeye of 150,000 fish was increased to 175,000 fish, with 50% migration timing through Area 20 of July 30, which is four days later than expected. There is still uncertainty in assessments of Summerrun sockeye abundance; however at the meeting today, the Panel adopted a run size estimate of 600,000 Summer-run sockeye, which is far below their 90% probability level forecast of 2,858,000 fish. The estimated 50% migration timing of Summer-run sockeye through Area 20 is August 4, which is one day earlier than expected. The Panel also adopted a run size estimate of 125,000 Harrison Late-run sockeye at the meeting today, which is nearly double their 50% probability level forecast of 69,000 fish. It is too early to provide an update on the run size of non-Harrison Late-run sockeye, however, the proportion of Weaver Creek sockeye in DNA samples has been increasing over the past few days.

Test fishing catches of pink salmon through the marine approach routes have been at modest levels over the past several days. An assessment on the run size of Fraser River pink salmon should be available within approximately two weeks. Migration conditions for sockeye entering the Fraser River have improved over the past week. On August 10 the Fraser River water temperature at Qualark Creek was 18.8 0C, which is 1.1 0C higher than average for this date. Water temperatures in this range may stress migrating sockeye and slow their upstream migration.

Due to the low abundance of Fraser sockeye thus far this season, there have been no directed commercial fisheries for Fraser River sockeye. All commercial fisheries in Panel Area waters remain closed to fishing at the present time.

The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on August 14, 2009.

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Re: 2009 Fraser River sockeye updates
« Reply #81 on: August 11, 2009, 04:09:17 PM »

Any word yet Rodney on that other notice regarding no fishing for sockeye.
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Re: 2009 Fraser River sockeye updates
« Reply #82 on: August 11, 2009, 04:20:00 PM »

Any word yet Rodney on that other notice regarding no fishing for sockeye.
I was told it is coming out tomorrow.

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Re: 2009 Fraser River sockeye updates
« Reply #84 on: August 11, 2009, 05:04:15 PM »

Awesome so if the bouncers don't stop we could loose fishing for pinks this year .


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Re: 2009 Fraser River sockeye updates
« Reply #85 on: August 11, 2009, 05:30:10 PM »

Its about time they did this!!!!! I'm gonna print off copies of this and pass them out on the bars.
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: 2009 Fraser River sockeye updates
« Reply #86 on: August 11, 2009, 06:38:29 PM »

so I supose first nations will have to bar fish for their salmon   ;)do not agree with further restriction when had a friend sturgeon fishing sat.intimidated and threatened off fraser by drift netting first nations boats. >:(nets good;B.b. evil ???
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Re: 2009 Fraser River sockeye updates
« Reply #87 on: August 11, 2009, 07:27:14 PM »

I did a comparison for the Blinkhorn test fishery for Sockeye for years 2006, 2008 & 2009.


Wasn't 2005 the brood year for the presently returning Sockeye?
If so, their timing was quite fifferent that '06 or '08
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Re: 2009 Fraser River sockeye updates
« Reply #88 on: August 11, 2009, 07:45:31 PM »

Because fisheries incompetance in estimating Run size,they are now saying please don't BB,give me a break,does one actually think people are going to listen to a bunch of nitwits,unless they officially close the flow to BB,people will continue to BB!
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Re: 2009 Fraser River sockeye updates
« Reply #89 on: August 11, 2009, 08:44:03 PM »

I'm impressed. Previously they only mentioned "selective techniques". This is the first time I've seen BB mentioned in an official DFO release.
Maybe we're on the way to getting a true leader length restriction.
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