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[hotrod]

Hi Everyone , I have been following FWR for about 8 yrs now. I have heard professional opinions to amateur ones. But it is this type of discussion which opens minds and hearts. My suggestion for fish farms is to build them inland , have canals bringing water to and  from the sea, not too far inland but not too close too. Have couple of dams or locks to prevent fish escaping and cross breeding or contaminating the wild stock.

I think this is being done in some countries. Just a suggestion,

Tks,
Raj

They will all be gone soon! and the rebuilding will start!



 Hotrod

[alwaysfishn]

Quoted from an update sent out by Alexandra Morton:

"The downgrade of the Fraser sockeye is a warning we can choose to ignore or react to. Alaska is seeing huge sockeye returns and they do not allow Atlantic salmon to be penned on their salmon migration routes.  We can make many guesses as to what happened to our sockeye, but it does not make sense to ignore the one that has been researched and published and seen worldwide.  Commercial, sport and tourism operators are taking losses to protect our wild salmon and yet the fish farms just keep getting bigger and more numerous. 

There is something very wrong here and if we want our wild salmon we need to speak now or forever lose our fish.

Standing by,

Alexandra Morton"

You can buy sockeye salmon in Save-on stores but they are not BC caught sockeye. As I understand it they are Alaska caught sockeye.

[kosanin kosher salt]

theyre saying 35million sockeye for bristol bay this year

theyve already harvested  24million  and you can buy at  0.75$  a pound  cheaper than pinks here

[Steelhawk]

Looks like Palin know how to take care of her fish than us Canadians. 

[Rodney]

Friday, July 31, 2009

The Fraser River Panel met Friday, July 31 to receive an update on the migration of the Fraser River sockeye runs and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.

Test fishing catches of sockeye from the marine approach areas indicate an increase in abundance relative to the previous week although abundance indicators are still far lower than pre-season expectations for this date. The run size estimate of 150,000 Early Summer-run sockeye was unchanged at the meeting today. Similar to Early Stuart and Early Summer-run sockeye, the return of Summer-run sockeye through marine assessment areas has been much lower than expected to-date. A run size estimate for Summer-run sockeye should be available next week near their expected peak migration date through marine assessment areas.

Migration conditions for sockeye entering the Fraser River have become adverse over the past week due to the sustained period of hot, dry weather and low discharge levels. On July 30 the water temperature of the Fraser River at Qualark Creek was 20.7 0C, which is 3.4 0C higher than average for this date. Water temperatures exceeding 20 0C may cause high pre-spawning mortality of Fraser River sockeye.

Due to the very low abundance of Fraser sockeye thus far this season, there have been no directed commercial fisheries for Fraser River sockeye. All commercial fisheries in Panel Area waters remain closed to fishing at the present time.

The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on August 4, 2009.

[mattyo]

I don't want to start a debate with this but why are they still stringing test nets every day??? With the run sizes as low as this, maybe a better idea is to run nets every three days?

[Steelhawk]

Perhaps they will do like before - open the fishery (if the # is slightly justified) so every one buys license, then close it with lightning speed.  There is no refund like buying a concert ticket. 

[Rodney]

Friday, August 7, 2009

The Fraser River Panel met Friday, August 7 to receive an update on the migration of the Fraser River sockeye runs and review the status of migration conditions in the Fraser River watershed.

Based on pre-season forecasts, the maximum daily Fraser sockeye migration through the
marine assessment areas was projected to be occurring now. However, test fishing catches over the past week indicate that the migration of Fraser sockeye through both the northern and southern approach routes continues to track far below expectations. The run size estimate for Early Summer-run sockeye of 150,000 fish was unchanged at the meeting today. Estimates of the run size of Summer-run sockeye are still highly uncertain because their peak migration timing through marine assessment areas is not yet known. Given the current assessment data and their expected marine timing, current estimates of Summer-run sockeye run size are considerably below their 90% probability level forecast of 2,858,000 fish and are less than those needed to provide harvestable surpluses. A more accurate assessment of the run size of Summer-run sockeye should be available next week. It is still early in the marine migration of most Late-run sockeye stocks. Assessments of Late-run sockeye abundance and marine timing will be provided over the next few weeks. The expected peak migration of Fraser River pink salmon through Juan de Fuca Strait is late August. Assessments of their migratory timing, stock composition and abundance will be conducted over the next several weeks.

Migration conditions for sockeye entering the Fraser River have been adverse for the past two weeks. On August 6 the Fraser River water temperature at Qualark Creek was 19.6 0C, which is 1.9 0C higher than average for this date. Water temperatures in this range may cause increased pre-spawning mortality of Fraser River sockeye. Due to cooler weather in the Fraser River watershed, water temperatures are forecast to decrease to 19.2 0C by August 15. Due to the low abundance of Fraser sockeye thus far this season, there have been no directed commercial fisheries for Fraser River sockeye. All commercial fisheries in Panel Area waters remain closed to fishing at the present time.

The next in-season meeting of the Panel is scheduled to occur on August 11, 2009.

[dnibbles]

Sockeye are now being observed holding in front of cold water tributaries in the Fraser canyon. These fish are as good as dead. Any stress impacts on sockeye at this time will effectively result in en-route mortality. this would include, but is not limited to: encounter in an 8" mesh chinook net, catch and release at the hands of sport fishermen, and harrassment by seals.

[sagerod]

Hi

We been hooking sockeye on the fly. We noticed that most of the sockeye had open sore on them, three or four on either side of the fish. Any thought on what this could be.

[dennyman]

If you look at studies that have  been done on the river system, it is a fungal infection. Add to that with the warm water, sockeye become more prone to a kidney disease that can prematurely kill them. As has been mentioned to death on sockeye related threads, sporties should try and minimize contact with sockeye as the unfavourable water conditions is not going to allow a lot of them to make it to their spawning grounds.

[chris gadsden]

From CKNW news

The prospects for sockeye salmon fishing in B.C. are so bad this year that some fishermen have already given up and gone home.

The pre-season forecast for the Fraser River sockeye run was more than eight million fish, but that's been substantially downgraded.

The Pacific Salmon Commission was to have released a new estimate of numbers this week, but that's been delayed until next
Tuesday because of uncertainty over the data collected so far.

In the meantime, federal fisheries area manager Barry Rosenberger says all current sockeye fishing closures remain in effect.

Out of town fishermen left the Prince Rupert area on the north coast this week when it became evident there would be no sockeye season this year, or if there is one, it will be small.
(CHNL)

[Rodney]

A fishery notice will be issued by DFO tomorrow for no fishing for sockeye salmon starting on Wednesday. Please note that this is different to no retention for sockeye salmon. By issuing this implementation, DFO wishes to see anglers reduce catching and release sockeye salmon significantly while targeting chinook, pink and chum salmon, meaning adopting alternative fishing methods such as barfishing, back trolling, lure casting and bait fishing.

[hue-nut]

Rodney do you know if this means that there will be a leader restriction in place?

[Eagleye]

I sure hope DFO implements a leader length restriction or is clear as to what methods are acceptable, otherwise it will just create contention between anglers and between us and FN as well.  Ultimately it will probably lead to the river being shut down for sporties if they are not clear as to how one should be fishing.  Unless of course they are just paying lip service to Mr Crey's request.