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[kosanin kosher salt]

2001 saw most of the sockeye come in late  augest  , 2005 saw 80% of sockeye in september   this run is just late  thats all . 11 million is coming through and ill catch my  2sox.  cant wait  2009 banner year!

[dereke]

 KKS I like your attitude

[chris gadsden]

ishery Notice - Fisheries and Oceans Canada

Subject: FN0569-Salmon: Fraser River Sockeye Update - July 28 - Areas 11 to 29

The Fraser River Panel met July 28 to receive an update on the migration of the
Fraser River sockeye runs and review the status of migration conditions in the
Fraser River watershed.

Test fishing catches of sockeye in Johnstone Strait and Juan de Fuca Strait as
well in the Fraser River indicate continued low migration of Fraser River
sockeye. The migration of Early Summer-run sockeye through marine assessment
areas continues to be much lower than expected to-date. The Panel adopted a run
size recommendation further down grading the Early Summer run from 264,000 fish
to 150,000.  The escapement of Early Summer-run sockeye past Mission through
July 27 is approximately 45,000 fish.

Summer-run sockeye have been entering the marine assessment areas over the past
couple of weeks and have also been well below expectations. It is too early to
make an in-season run size estimate for Summers however they are tracking
consistent with Early Summer stock group.  The estimated escapement of Summer-
run sockeye past Mission through July 27 is approximately 28,000 fish.

Migration conditions for sockeye entering the Fraser River are deteriorating.
On July 27 the Fraser River discharge at Hope was approximately 4,100 cms,
which is approximately 15%-20% lower than normal. Water temperatures are the
larger issue. Temperatures at Qualark Creek were 19.8 C on July 27th, which
more than 20C higher than average for this date. Fraser River water
temperatures are forecast to reach approximately 21.7 C by August 5th, which
would set all time record highs. Water temperatures exceeding 20 C may cause
high enroute mortality of Fraser River sockeye.

There are no directed recreational and commercial fisheries for Fraser River
sockeye at the present time.  First Nations sockeye fisheries have been
curtailed and DFO is planning meetings with First Nations groups to review
current information.

Next Panel meeting is July 31st.


FOR MORE INFORMATION:

Barry Rosenberger 250-851-4892

Fisheries and Oceans Canada Operations Center - FN0569
Sent July 29, 2009 at 16:12
Visit us on the Web at http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca

[Sir Snag-A-Lot]

First Nations sockeye fisheries have been
curtailed and DFO is planning meetings with First Nations groups to review
current information.

Next Panel meeting is July 31st.

Wow!  This is unprecedented, isn't is?  In the past DFO has always just recommended that the Natives stop fishing, haven't they?   

Serious stuff...

[Easywater]

Test fishery numbers are starting to look good - we may have a chance yet.

[dereke]

  Agreed I think they are late.....

[Geff_t]

Test fishery numbers are starting to look good - we may have a chance yet.

  Not if our weather does not change. If it continues to stay hot then the water temps will be too high and they will need as many sockeye getting threw as possible.

[dennisK]

  Agreed I think they are late.....

maybe they know its too hot and hanging around in the ocean

[gman]

The number of salmon visible on the incoming tides has really increased the last little while. The test fishery is also showing more, but not really like the large catches in the good years.
http://www.psc.org/info_testfishing_summaries.htm
Interesting that the test fisheries alone have already caught over 10,000 sockeye already this year!

With all the information posted above it doesn'y sound like it will  open any time soon. I guess there is hope that if the numbers continue to improve, and the weather changes enough to allow better river conditions for fish they might decide on an opening later. If we get the usual rains that start with the PNE in mid-late August maybe they will open it then?

[gman]

yesterdays seine test at blinkhorn area 12 was pretty good for socks,huge for pinks. the next 7-14 days will tell if things are as bad as forecast. dont write off the sockeye yet.  fish dont have a watch and can delay migration for various reasons.

Area 12 is near the North end of Vancouver Island, on the inside. Looks like quite a few sockeye, and a huge amount of pinks are on their way down through Campbell River and eventually the Fraser. Interesting for those of us planning Campbell River trips this August! 

[clarki]

I would imagine the Americans will be comercial fishing for them.

Only if they violate the Pacific Salmon Treaty. The Pacific Salmon Commission is responsible for the joint interests of American and Canadian commercial fisheries.

[Every Day]

I also believe that many sockeye will be sitting in the ocean.
Why would these fish come up the river when the water is warm, when they can sit in the ocean and fuel up on food and energy.
If we know these temps are strefful to the fish, don't you think they would figure out they are going to die if they keep going?
Hopefully the temps drop and the run is just late like it probably is.

[goblin59]

As much I like to fish for sockeye, they have been in decline for a number of years now. I think iit's best the don't open it, the fraser water temperatures are way too high at present and that's the biggest concern right now. Keep it shut down to everyone, including first nations.

[dennisK]

As much I like to fish for sockeye, they have been in decline for a number of years now. I think iit's best the don't open it, the fraser water temperatures are way too high at present and that's the biggest concern right now. Keep it shut down to everyone, including first nations.

but what if the decline has nothing to do with natives or commercial guys; but squarely on fish farms devastating juvenile sockeye?

turning a blind eye and just closing the sockeye fishing will do nothing to fix the fish farm as the problem.

[searun17]

but what if the decline has nothing to do with natives or commercial guys; but squarely on fish farms devastating juvenile sockeye?

turning a blind eye and just closing the sockeye fishing will do nothing to fix the fish farm as the problem.

While i do agree that fish farms are a problem to our fish stocks and the problem does need to be fixed the reasons for our declining fish stocks goes allot farther than just the fish farms and unfortunately there is no quick fix to the problems that need to be dealt with and the easiest solution to allow some form of sustainability to our stocks would be to close it down to all groups until we can correct some of the man made detriments our salmon are facing.