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Frankey

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Violent Confrontation on Fraser
« on: August 17, 2009, 02:46:32 PM »

Just heard the news,there was a violent confrontation betweens natives and sporties yesterday (Sunday) at the mouth of the Harrison when a native driftnet became entangled around a sports boat.One native was shot in the face with a BB gun according to Tribal Police, a second sports boat joined the fray and produced a knife which was used to cut the drift net away,Police are looking for two sports fisherman and boat as they left the scene after the altercation!... and the plot thickens...stayed tuned!
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Re: Violent Confrontation on Fraser
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2009, 03:18:40 PM »

Too bad. But these things will give Crey more ammo to shut down the sporties, all of them, on boat or on shore.

Also beware that FN fishers may be armed from this point on.  ;D

For once, bbers are not responsible to cause violence or river closure (if it happens) this time.  ;D
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Re: Violent Confrontation on Fraser
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2009, 07:32:25 PM »

Chilliwack Progress
Chehalis chief shot with pellet gun after gear gets tangled
 
The Fraser River at Island 22.
JENNA HAUCK/ PROGRESS FILE

Text   By Jennifer Feinberg - Chilliwack Progress


Published: August 17, 2009 1:00 PM
Updated: August 17, 2009 3:10 PM

1 Comment The Sto:lo Tribal Council is asking for the Fraser River to be completely shut down to recreational fishing after a violent incident against the chief of Chehalis First Nation erupted Sunday on the Fraser.

RCMP reported that a First Nations fishing boat was drift-netting on the Fraser near the mouth of the Harrison River when the net became entangled with a sport fishing boat, causing an an altercation.

"The males aboard the sport fishing boat were reported to have fired a shot from what is believed to be a BB gun or Air Gun, striking one male," said RCMP Const. Lea-Anne Dunlop.

One of the men was hit with a projectile, which caused a laceration to his face.

"Thankfully the injuries were minor in nature," said Dunlop.

Chehalis Chief Willie Charlie stated in a news release he was the one who was shot in the face with a pellet gun, while he was operating one of the many native boats drifting in the area.

"They threatened us and repeatedly rammed our boats as we fought to untangle our gear and defend ourselves with oars and poles," said Charlie. "Some among the sport fishermen had drawn guns and knives as we fought to protect ourselves.

"I was shot in the face by a pellet gun, gear was damaged and words were exchanged before the sport fishers finally disbursed."

Due to so few sockeye returning this year, aboriginal fisheries were restricted to using large-mesh drift nets that are only capable of selectively harvesting stronger runs of chinook salmon, he said.

"Sport fishers need to respect our limited weekend openings and get along with our fishers or get out of the river," added Charlie.

The chief emphasized the need for everyone "to respect the Constitutional priority of the food, social and ceremonial fishery" or closures would be sought.

"We were lucky this time," said Chief Charlie.

STC spokesman Ernie Crey agreed, and said part of the problem is that people do not know that drift fishing with nets is an authorized method of fishing by DFO.

"Leaders in the sport fishery are encouraging this kind of conflict by attacking both the DFO, thus encouraging disrespect for authority, and aboriginal fishing families," he said. "They claim that fishing with drifted gillnets is illegal in our fishery. This is incorrect as the DFO authorizes fishing by this method. And under court rulings, we have the freedom, within reason, to choose our preferred methods of taking our food fish."

The conflict is likely "to spread like wildfire" all along the Lower Fraser, he said.

"I have been warning the DFO that some anglers are mixing booze, guns and bad tempers," Crey continued. "I told the DFO that there is imminent danger of violent confrontations between our food-fishing families and sport fishermen who don’t believe they should share the Fraser with aboriginal people."

The tribal council is now demanding that DFO extend the partial river closure over the entire Lower Fraser.

"The Fraser River’s aboriginal people are now engaged in a desperate struggle to catch and preserve salmon to avoid hardship this coming winter," Crey said. "The DFO should not make matters worse for them by exposing them to violent and abusive anglers plying the river."

Police are now asking any witnesses of the Sunday afternoon incident on the river to come forward and call police at 604-792-4611 or CrimeStoppers.

"Extensive patrols were made for the boat, and its occupant, of launching areas, and on the river with the use of the RCMP river boat, however the suspects could not be found," said Dunlop.


The suspect's boat was described as a 19-foot cream-coloured fiberglass boat with an outboard motor. The two male occupants of the boat were described as follows a Caucasian man in his 60s with grey hair and a moustache, and a Caucasian man between 35 and 45, with scruffy brown hair and facial hair. Both men spoke in heavy accents, described as possibly English or Scottish.

jfeinberg@theprogress.com

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mrichview 3 hours ago
"The Sto:lo Tribal Council is asking for the Fraser River to be completely shut down to recreational fishing after a violent incident against the chief of Chehalis First Nation erupted Sunday on the Fraser."

Surprising that the Sto:lo want

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Re: Violent Confrontation on Fraser
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2009, 07:39:06 PM »

not racist  my thoughts though are that for food? natives are selling them!
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Re: Violent Confrontation on Fraser
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2009, 07:42:22 PM »

Sigh...  Does anyone remember when fishing used to be about having a good time?
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Re: Violent Confrontation on Fraser
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2009, 07:51:45 PM »



"I have been warning the DFO that some anglers are mixing booze, guns and bad tempers,"

who is he talking about? cause it sounds a lot like most of the aboriginal fishermen that i've seen on the river ::)

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Re: Violent Confrontation on Fraser
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2009, 09:10:45 PM »

Your right Hue-Nut., and this is just the usual, race-baiting, one side of story " reporting' ;)from the Progress. The paper is a disgrace.
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Re: Violent Confrontation on Fraser
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2009, 09:27:08 PM »

Whoever is this fisherman is he is a real clown and his action are affecting all of us.  He is lucky the FN didn't shoot him.
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Re: Violent Confrontation on Fraser
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2009, 09:42:48 PM »

Whoever is this fisherman is he is a real clown and his action are affecting all of us.  He is lucky the FN didn't shoot him.

Let's remember.....   we've only heard one side of the story.  ???
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Re: Violent Confrontation on Fraser
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2009, 09:48:36 PM »

True and I'm confident there is more to it but I cannot think of any excuse for shooting an FN in the face with a BB gun...
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Re: Violent Confrontation on Fraser
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2009, 10:17:37 PM »

If the natives are fishing for food,why are they selling them? ???Once again Ernie Crey you are spewing misconceptions about what really is going on the river.I too would like to hear the other side of the story!
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Re: Violent Confrontation on Fraser
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2009, 03:14:14 PM »

If the natives are fishing for food,why are they selling them? ???Once again Ernie Crey you are spewing misconceptions about what really is going on the river.I too would like to hear the other side of the story!

I was fishing on Fraser on Saturday fromt he shore (Seabird Island) and two FN boats were drifting this are all day long.  One boat was net-drifting on the opposite shore and the FN guys got 1-2 fish over the entire day.
The other FN boat started drifting close to the other side of shore where BB's and other rec fishermen were casting, obviously trying to reach the pools where socks rest.  Then a group of three young men (I assume one was FN, the others definitely not)  started bottom bouncing from  the shore, being quite noisy and bold, they got 1 sockeye, kiled the fish, kept it and soon disapeared with the fish.  After my own experience observing FN net drifting, and the fact, that fish are usually resting or prefering one part of the water and there is almost no fish in Fraser, both FN & recreationals want to fish the same spot ! So entangling each other is unavoidable. It is obvious that FN wants to close all Fraser for recreationals so they can net-drfit the entire river without any "obstacles" from other fishermen.
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Re: Violent Confrontation on Fraser
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2009, 08:19:14 PM »

Were there any witness to the confrontation ? How do we know this is not a made up story . The so called confrontation is to sway the DFO in closing the river for all sports fishing . Until we hear the other side of the story , all the talk is a ploy to close the river .
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