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gheart008

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Record Jack Springs on license?
« on: September 11, 2009, 08:55:23 AM »
This is probably an obvious answer, but just wanted to clarify if you need to mark down retained Jack Springs on your license, since it's technically a Chinook?
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Re: Record Jack Springs on license?
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2009, 08:58:14 AM »
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Re: Record Jack Springs on license?
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2009, 09:19:15 AM »
This is not an obvious answer actually.

For freshwater, you are only required to record defined adult chinook salmon on your freshwater fishing licence.

For saltwater licence, it states that "all chinook salmon are required to be recorded", not "all adult chinook salmon are required to be recorded". A forum member brought this up with me awhile ago because he was told by a fishery officer in the tidal region that jack chinook salmon are required to be recorded. I have sent in an enquiry about this and still waiting for an answer, so please stay tuned.
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Re: Record Jack Springs on license?
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2009, 09:25:37 AM »
I just looked it up in the tidal regs, good question
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Re: Record Jack Springs on license?
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2009, 09:44:10 AM »
My understanding is that you DON'T have to record them on your freshwater license, but you DO have to record them on your salty license.
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gheart008

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Re: Record Jack Springs on license?
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2009, 09:51:04 AM »
Hmm, interesting.  I was asking specifically about the tidal license, but good to know about the fresh water as well.

Only reason why I ask was the other night some guy caught one beside me from the lower fraser, didn't know what it was, and I helped him identify it as a jack spring.  He bonked it, but I don't think he recorded it on his license, hence my question.

Anyways, let's wait for Rod to clarify.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2009, 09:53:37 AM by gheart008 »
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Re: Record Jack Springs on license?
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2009, 09:58:01 AM »
On that note, since the Jack spring is going to die after this spawn, doesn't that make it an adult too?  Just a young adult?
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Re: Record Jack Springs on license?
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2009, 10:10:15 AM »
Quote from: DragonSpeed on September 11, 2009, 09:58:01 AM
On that note, since the Jack spring is going to die after this spawn, doesn't that make it an adult too?  Just a young adult?

Now you just made it more confusing than it already was  ;D
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Re: Record Jack Springs on license?
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2009, 10:18:56 AM »
Quote from: gheart008 on September 11, 2009, 10:10:15 AM
Now you just made it more confusing than it already was  ;D
Just tossing my wrench into the gears whenever possible. ;)
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Re: Record Jack Springs on license?
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2009, 12:03:15 PM »
A 13 year old male human being can impregnate a female, but is HE an adult?  ;)

A jack spring is a precocious male chinook salmon, and is essentially nature's insurance policy.
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Re: Record Jack Springs on license?
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2009, 01:55:32 PM »
Quote from: DragonSpeed on September 11, 2009, 09:58:01 AM
On that note, since the Jack spring is going to die after this spawn, doesn't that make it an adult too?  Just a young adult?

That is why in my previous post I wrote defined adult chinook salmon. :P The minimum length of the adult chinook salmon defined by DFO is different for each system. For example, summer adult chinook salmon on the Fraser River are defined as over 50cm, while fall adult chinook salmon from coastal tributaries are typically defined as over 62cm. As for jack chinook salmon, what Tex said. :)
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Re: Record Jack Springs on license?
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2009, 02:04:32 AM »
Just following this up as I have received an answer to my question. For tidal waters, ALL chinook salmon (both defined adults and jacks) are required to be recorded on your tidal water licence once retained.

The manager who has provided this does not know the reasoning behind this and will further look into it and let me know. Stay tuned.
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