Sinaran: sorry to hear about the TDMs who spoiled your fishing trip. But not to get things sidetracked but an earlier post makes some good points. If you do not have good balance do not wade in the water while fishing. There are spots on the Vedder which lend themselves to fishing from shore. Also, no need to go out far to clean your fish. If you are up to your knees while cleaning your fish, that is in my opinion a bit too deep to go. Hopefully good karma, comes to the good samaritan on future fishing trips.