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[Matt]

Well, I ended up picking up an Amundson Sturgeon for $100 at the Army and Navy. I looked at the Shimano Technium, but at $169 (everywhere I price-checked), I couldn't justify it. I noticed a rod which looked almost identical to the Technium standing up in the rack and I took it out and had a look. Save for the orange tip, the Admundson Sturgeon, the blank looked nearly identical to the Technium- same "unique" finish, same profile and same guide spacing. Both are 8', 40-80lbs rated. I then got one of the guys to place the handles of the rods flat on the counter and I tied on 18oz wedge weights on to the tips. Both rods had nearly the same profile bent as well. I even swapped the weights around to ensure it wasn't a discrepancy in weight. The Amundson bent about 1.5" less over the last two feet or so. Both rods were bent down about a foot by the 18oz, so 1.5" isn't much.

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed the similarity between these two rods. At only 2/3 the price, it looks like quite a rod.

Taking public transit from the Army and Navy downtown home to North Van with an 8' one piece sturgeon rod was interesting as well. A couple people* asked me if I'd caught anything off the Seabus before...

* its the day after welfare Wednesday recall and the booze is a flowin'

[NFM]

10 ft rock  ? ? ?

[coho killer]

oh, i got mine at chilliwack dart and tackle

[Matt]

Anyone fished the Amundson yet?  I've googled it and nothing comes up.

[bbronswyk2000]

10 ft rock  ? ? ?

I leave the rocks for you to catch

[redside1]

Well, I ended up picking up an Amundson Sturgeon for $100 at the Army and Navy. I looked at the Shimano Technium, but at $169 (everywhere I price-checked), I couldn't justify it. I noticed a rod which looked almost identical to the Technium standing up in the rack and I took it out and had a look. Save for the orange tip, the Admundson Sturgeon, the blank looked nearly identical to the Technium- same "unique" finish, same profile and same guide spacing. Both are 8', 40-80lbs rated. I then got one of the guys to place the handles of the rods flat on the counter and I tied on 18oz wedge weights on to the tips. Both rods had nearly the same profile bent as well. I even swapped the weights around to ensure it wasn't a discrepancy in weight. The Amundson bent about 1.5" less over the last two feet or so. Both rods were bent down about a foot by the 18oz, so 1.5" isn't much.

I'm curious if anyone else has noticed the similarity between these two rods. At only 2/3 the price, it looks like quite a rod.

Amundson copied the Shimano to make the rod they offer. The first offerings of BC style rods are all copies of what is thought to be the most popular rods for BC fisheries. The rods offered today may or may not have changed from (I have not followed what is now the complete rod line) that but the first ones were all rods that certain guides said were the ones to have so they were purchased and sent back to the factory to be knocked off with maybe a couple of changes like the red tip for helping detect a bite. I talked to the #1 guide that supplied him with most of the info and he is now a tackle shop owner.

[skaha]

--I have a few amundson rods 10' mh bait caster, spin and 6wt top.
--not sure who they got their info from but they really hit the mark on models and types of rods for this market.
--I doubt there are many secrets in the fishing industry, I m sure all the majors have a set of each others rods for comparison.

--These rods are well price and good value..just hope they stay that way and don't start raising prices as they gain in popularity.

--I had pretty much a full set of St. Croix rods that several years in a row won best in show or best value at dealer shows... they then decided that they were popular enough to significantly bump the price. I see now they are coming around with an new value priced MOJO series.

--I don't mind paying more as R&D costs can be significant in new products.
--There's more to a rod than guide spacing and components.
--The amundson line has better good quality components than most in its price range and similar quality to other higher cost rods.
--This is my second season using Amundson and I haven't had a problem yet. For the money I think they are great value.

[jetboatjim]

--not sure who they got their info from but they really hit the mark on models and types of rods for this market.

thats easy if you copy others hard work, just buy up what the guide says to use for that type of fishing....go to korea and copy it.....wont get my money.

[skaha]

--I guess I'll have to give up flyfishing because I didn't invent any of the patterns I'm using.

--guide spacing  and size is based on generally accepted formulas used throughout the industry.
--there are only a few major manufacturers of guides and thread which most rod manufacturers and custom builders use.
--is there a list somewhere of manufacturers that have proprietary rights and no one else is allowed to start a company or make something similar?
--rod designers like G-Loomis now with Temple Fork have moved around to various companies over the years, what part of their knowledge are they not allowed to share?

--For years only a few manufacturers were willing to make the rods we want to use here due to the small market so now we are supposed to not let anyone else in the club?

[Sam Salmon]

.....For years only a few manufacturers were willing to make the rods we want to use here due to the small market so now we are supposed to not let anyone else in the club?

LOL!!

How very very true, the Good Old days weren't always that great.  

[Matt]

I think its great that companies like Amundson are catering to niche markets like Fraser sturgeon fishing.

[Rybar]

I'm trying to remember what rod I have. It's a Halibut rod and a bit on the short side for casting from shore. I can check when I get home.