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[chris gadsden]

I hope to get my canvasser kit this week and for starters I am gong for 100 signatures minimum. Sorry I have had trouble uploading Bill's talk here in Chilliwack to u tube as I promised but I am trying to get the problem fixed.

[IronNoggin]

I love that 85% statistic. Nobody likes taxes, specially if they seem like new taxes. Will that translate to votes for the NDP... not likely.

Perhaps not. But what it WILL translate to is the anti-HST program collecting their required 10% of the registered voters' signatures and forcing the matter to a public vote. Given the results of the Ipsos-Reid polls (between 80 - 85% directly opposed) there is likely little room for another outcome. 90 days to collect those signatures, and a growing juggernaut of support from nearly all directions, including notably in Gordo's own riding. 

You and the rest of the LIEberal Apologists can of course continue to offer your blind support for this merry Band Of Fools  - that is your right.

As for the rest of us who are becoming more than jaded with the way this Shepherd tends his "flocks", methinks the day is coming up quickly when that message will be driven home. While you may not agree with the anti-HST program, it appears the vast majority do not share the same sentiment.

Gordo and his much hated HST are Going Down Folks. Given the overwhelming responses in the polls, there is likely no other outcome. As a small business operator myself, I couldn't be happier with the thought...

I do expect that they operate this province on a financially responsible basis and I accept that because the tax base is eroding they need to either cut expenses or raise revenue.

Methinks that your "expectations" are a tad beyond reality. "Financially Responsible"? LOL! Surely even one as obviously brainwashed as you appear to be don't actually believe what you just wrote? FAR too many examples to even begin to cite here!
As for "the tax base eroding" being the underlying causal agent driving the HST, methinks you're again choosing to support your first erroneous statement with another of the same ilk. If it wasn't for Gordo's complete LACK of fiscal responsibility, we wouldn't be facing down the deficit growing in such tremendous leaps and bounds under his Dick-tatorship.

You are choosing to believe the HST is a desperate tax grab, I'm choosing to believe it's an opportunity to put a nation wide sale tax in place that makes more sense than the current system.

You obviously can continue to believe whatever you want. Free country after all. Apparently some still believe the earth is flat, the moon made of cheese, and Gordo is actually a gentleman. 

After it is all said and done, we'll see who rules the day - Those that continuously LIE while in governance, or those who are PO'd enough to do something about it.

Cheers,
Nog

[Schenley]

the moon made of cheese

.........Its NOT!!!!   There goes another childhood myth     Just like the one about Gordo and his pirates being fiscally responsible.    hey Nog-- aint you supposed to stay quiet in bed during your recovery period?....BADDDD boy

[alwaysfishn]

But what it WILL translate to is the anti-HST program collecting their required 10% of the registered voters' signatures and forcing the matter to a public vote. Given the results of the Ipsos-Reid polls (between 80 - 85% directly opposed) there is likely little room for another outcome. 90 days to collect those signatures, and a growing juggernaut of support from nearly all directions, including notably in Gordo's own riding. 

So let's play along here Nog.....   suppose the anti HST campaign does manage to get 10% of the voters in each riding to sign up. Next the new "bill" to propose canceling the HST needs to go to a public vote at taxpayer expense of course.  Are you aware that 50% of the registered voters would need to vote in favor of the new "bill" in order to have it implemented?

 It ain't gonna happen! It's tough enough to get 50% of the voters to a regular election  let alone an election on a nuisance bill.

If I believed that the anti -HST campaign could get to first base, I'd be getting upset at what your futile exercise is going to cost us tax payers just for you to try get the "bill" to second base......

Fortunately I don't believe the anti-HST campaign will make it to first base

[chris gadsden]

From a circulating e mail.

Hi folks
 
Not my usual broadcast, but an important one if you are a Canadian.  Delete...it if it's not your cup of tea......but I thought it was an interesting perspective on the new harmonization tax.............I was wondering just how WE were going to pay for the Olympics.....its a bit disconcerting and sorry for the reality check.  My question is...what's the solution?  Mine is to live in a 3rd world country for 4-5 months of the year and support an economy and people I can afford to help, rather than feeling energy sucked in this one.  I love it here and I find it more and more expensive to live in harmony.  I believe living in Community is one solution, but most of the people I know, don't seem too ready for this.  Off the grid, free energy, shared expenses, like cars, housing, etc, growing our own food... There are lots of solutions, but for now, here's the reality.
It's a cute poem and unbelievable how many taxes there are, considering 100 years ago, there were none and we were a very prosperous country...what happened?  Did we become passive aggressive or too busy to notice, enjoying the fruits of the material world?


 

 
The Gov't of BC announced that BC will be 'Harmonizing' Provincial sales tax with the Federal GST, and said it will be revenue neutral.  I heard today that harmonization will mean that there will be many fewer items that will be tax exempt now.    Bottom line:  More revenue will be collected.

 
Read carefully.  Many groups including our MLAs want you to believe it will be revenue neutral but it sure doesn't look that way to me. The government in Ontario is giving each resident a $ 1000. cheque. Our government should forget about doing the same in BC. It will not even begin to pay the first year increase in costs. Remember the $ 100.00 we received when the carbon tax was introduced.?
 
Let's send a message to our MLA, (perhaps even this email) talk about it to your friends, send this email to everyone you can think of.  These figures don't include some major key items such as car and home insurance going up 7%, home heating oil and gas for your car and natural gas for your home are going up 7 %. Just think about this the next time you eat in a restaurant. The entire bill will be taxed at 12% and the suggested tip is 15% for a total of 27%.
 
Trips to chiropractors, natualpaths and other important services up 7%,
Home purchases, used car purchases and many more that no one has thought about yet.
It is time to act before it is too late.
This is done to save business money by combining the two taxes (PST and GST) but there are already exceptions so why is there a need to add PST to items that don't have PST on them other then as a tax grab.
Let those MLA's know how unhappy we are.
THE TAX GRAB   7% more for NOTHING more
Seniors living in retirement enjoy a lifestyle different than the one they lived while at work.  In retirement, to be active, often means paying a fee, a membership, an admission, a subscription or for costs for travel, etc. 

We have calculated that the impact of this will be more costly for  seniors, than anyone has reported.

Consider a retired couple, receiving total retirement income of $41,400 after tax per year, healthy enough to enjoy some comfort in retirement. 

Many of those items used on a daily basis will now be subject to an 7% cost increase, because of the new harmonized sales tax introduced by the Liberal government

Look at just a few of those items that will cost more, without getting more.

    * Cable TV:  if $60 monthly, yearly increase is $50.40 more.
    * Golf Fees:  if $1,500 yearly X 2, yearly increase is $210.00 more
    * Gym Membership:  if $35 month X 2, yearly increase is $58.80 more.
    * Hydro:  if $85 monthly, yearly increase is $71.40 more.
    * Haircuts:  if $450 annually for 2 people, yearly increase is $31.50 more.
    * Heating Fuel:  if $1000. annually, yearly increase is $64.00 more.
    * Internet:  If $65 monthly, yearly increase is $70.00 more.
    * Income Tax Prep. If cost is $150 X 2, yearly increase is $21.00 more.
    * Legal Fees:  for wills, P.Of A., advice, etc. Add 7%, more
    * Hockey/Football/Baseball Game Tickets more
    * Magazine Subscription:  more
    * Movie Tickets:  one per month X 2, yearly increase is $20.16 more
    * Newspapers Subscription: $20 monthly, yrly incr. Is $16.80 more
    * Curling Fees: if $600. yearly x 2  is $84.00 more
    * Telephone: if $48 monthly, yearly increase is $40.32 more

    *  Echo Players/Bard to Broadway, Chemainus Theatre Tickets: more

    * Vacation Travel: $450 airline ticket X 2, yrly increase $63.00 more
    * Veterinarian:  Beagle is Family!  Add more.
    * Vitamins: Add more
    *  Tim Hortons Coffee:  3 per week X 2, yrly increase is more

Are you ready for the TAX KICK coming?
For just these listed items

NEW TAXES OVER $2,100.00 MORE
Every year
 
IS THIS A NEW HIDDEN TAX TO HELP PAY FOR THE 2010 OLYMPICS?...you bet it is
THIS TAX IS COMING IN 2010
Sad but true!!
At first I thought this was funny....then I realized the awful truth of it. Be sure to read all the way to the end!

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.
> >>>> >>>>
Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.
> >>>> >>>>
Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for peanuts
Anyway!
> >>>> >>>>
Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.
Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.
> >>>> >>>>
Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.
> >>>> >>>>
Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.
> >>>> >>>>
Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his my friend i.e. his donkey.
> >>>> >>>>
Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.
> >>>> >>>>
When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.
> >>>> >>>>
Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.
> >>>> >>>>
Put these words
Upon his tomb,
'Taxes drove me
To my doom...'
> >>>> >>>>
When he's gone,
Do not relax,
It’s time to apply
The inheritance tax.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
Accounts Receivable Tax
Airline surcharge tax
Airline Fuel Tax
Airport Maintenance Tax
Building Permit Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Death Tax
Dog License Tax
Driving Permit Tax
Environmental Tax (Fee)
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment (UI)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Gasoline Tax (too much)
Gross Receipts Tax
Health Tax
Hunting License Tax
Hydro Tax
Inheritance Tax
Interest Tax
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Mortgage Tax
Personal Income Tax
Property Tax
Poverty Tax
Prescription Drug Tax
Provincial Income Tax
Real Estate Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Retail Sales Tax
Service Charge Tax
School Tax
Telephone Federal Tax
Telephone Federal, Provincial and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Water Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was one of the most prosperous in the world.

We had absolutely no national debt, had a large middle class, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What in the hell happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'

I hope this goes around CANADA at least 100 times!!!!! YOU can help it get there!!!!

GO AHEAD - - - be a CANADIAN !!!!!!!!!!
 
 

   
e!

[Fish Assassin]

Saw Vaughn Palmer being interviewed during the Noon News. He thinks the odds of repealing the HST is an uphill struggle because the NDP who originally passed the legislation designed it in such a way to make to make it virtually impossible to overturn a government's decision. They need at least 10% of the eliigible voters in each riding to sign the petition. He thinks alot of the people who signs the petition will be disqualified because they are either not on the voters list or not residing in the consitutency. VanderZalm claim he has over 5,000 volunteers to canvas the province. Palmer in talking to Election BC says he has less than 2,000

[chris gadsden]

Saw Vaughn Palmer being interviewed during the Noon News. He thinks the odds of repealing the HST is an uphill struggle because the NDP who originally passed the legislation designed it in such a way to make to make it virtually impossible to overturn a government's decision. They need at least 10% of the eliigible voters in each riding to sign the petition. He thinks alot of the people who signs the petition will be disqualified because they are either not on the voters list or not residing in the consitutency. VanderZalm claim he has over 5,000 volunteers to canvas the province. Palmer in talking to Election BC says he has less than 2,000

Of course if you do not try you have no chance of succeeding. It is bringing alot of attention to this HST issue as I saw in Chillwack last week. Re the numbers of volunteers, they are so back logged at Election BC they have not been able process them all.

Many more to come as many people sign up at the rallies that have and will be held the next while. When we that are out canvassing we are to separate people's signatures onto separate lists depending what riding they were in at the last election.
If nothing else the Liberal party will be decimated in the next election over this issue and of course the Leafs will win the Cup at the same time.

[alwaysfishn]

From a circulating e mail.

Hi folks
 

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was one of the most prosperous in the world.

We had absolutely no national debt, had a large middle class, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What in the hell happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'

What happened is everybody wanted free health care, free education, better highways, etc etc. You can blame the politicians but you need to look in the mirror as well.

This stuff needs to be paid for folks!    Wow, I can't believe I needed to say that..... 

Sure HST is going to cost you more, although not as much as that narrative is suggesting. The government needs to get the money somewhere. Would you rather they increased the PST? I hear that NS is increasing their PST portion of the HST to 10%. http://money.canoe.ca/money/business/canada/archives/2010/04/20100406-161422.html

Nothing against complaining about higher taxes. Directing your anger at HST which is simpler, less costly to administrate and makes any products manufactured in BC more competitive world wide, makes no sense.

[alwaysfishn]

If nothing else the Liberal party will be decimated in the next election over this issue and of course the Leafs will win the Cup at the same time.

As a fellow Leaf fan I am looking forward to that! (The part about the Leafs winning the cup) 

[chris gadsden]

As a fellow Leaf fan I am looking forward to that! (The part about the Leafs winning the cup)  

The Global TV segment on the HST that FA talked about is here.

http://www.globaltvbc.com/video/index.html?releasePID=lks1ujS03qDrHmD7KqtMCmlmxsQuF_FM

[alwaysfishn]

Here is a great graphic showing the difference between PST/GST and HST on a 2x4 you would buy at Home Depot.

[Novabonker]

Are you actually a PAB staffer AF?

[alwaysfishn]

Are you actually a PAB staffer AF?

"PAB"

I guess if I don't know what that stands for.....   probably answers your question.  

What does it stand for?  


As far as the graphic I put up, I figure if you're going to be anti something you should at least understand what it is.   

[Novabonker]

Public Affairs Bureau - the 30 million PLUS dollar infomercial and propaganda arm of the Liberals. (Lotta dental work for poor kids in that budget if the tax money was properly prioritized. But we at least know we live in "The Best Place On Earth"  You come across as a PAB staffer.Or a really stubborn salesman, that just can't accept NO as an answer

[Fish Assassin]

As a fellow Leaf fan I am looking forward to that! (The part about the Leafs winning the cup) 

There goes your credibility