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Bently

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Re: Hook under chin
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2010, 09:48:32 AM »

If it's a legal fishery then there is no problem with it in my books....  The folks catching these fish are catching them for food.

What is the difference between catching that fish in the mouth or a native using his dip net or a commercial fisherman using his gill net? In all cases the fish is going to die in order to feed someone. Look at the protein you eat, I would suggest that there was absolutely nothing sporting about the way the animal died.  ???

As far as a hook under the chin, I guess by definition it depends on how close to the mouth the hook was located. It could be argued that the fish doesn't have a chin, just a big mouth.....  :D   With lure fishing it's very common for a coho to be hooked outside the mouth.

One of the tricks I use when lure fishing is to put a swivel between the hook and the lure. Without the extension on the hook the coho will strike the lure and the hook only catches the boney part of the mouth. With the rolling a coho does I would usually lose the fish. With the extension I believe I get more successful hookups because the extension on the hook causes the hook to catch the fish either in the cheek or under the mouth. I have no problem with the legality of that.


Legal yes, but sports fishing is about tricking the fish to bite your hook. Native fisheries and commercial fisheries are not sport, you can't compare. If I think in any way that my fish is foul hooked,,,I let it go.....remember the saying, " SPORTING CHANCE "
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Re: Hook under chin
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2010, 10:16:01 AM »

Where exactly does the mouth stop and the head start?  :D

unfortunately for some people it's just forward of the vent. :D
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Re: Hook under chin
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2010, 11:32:22 AM »


Legal yes, but sports fishing is about tricking the fish to bite your hook.

.... Really??   Couldn't find that definition, however I did find a few others.....   ;)

sport fishing - The act of someone who fishes as a diversion

sport fishing - Sport of catching fish — freshwater or saltwater — typically with rod, line, and hook.

sport fishingFishing for recreation and not for sale or barter. Sport fishing includes angling, spear fishing, set lining and crayfish trapping.

The last one is taken out of the BC Freshwater fishing regulations booklet.  :)
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Re: Hook under chin
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2010, 04:00:58 PM »

 :-X :-X ::) ::)
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Re: Hook under chin
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2010, 09:31:04 AM »

 i hooked a decent mountain whitefish under the chin casting a blue fox vibrax on the vedder last saturday...  a quick gentle release and it shot in the current, will that fish survive? take it easy and tight lines...
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Re: Hook under chin
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2010, 09:50:50 AM »

ive hooked lots of steelhead on pink worms in the head area..under the chin quite a bit...some of them were hatchery too :-X
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Re: Hook under chin
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2010, 01:40:10 PM »

Check out some of the fishing shows that are targeting pike with big lures and trebles. The fish may grab the lure, but if it is 10 or 12 inches long and the fish grabs it in the middle, the trebles are going to hook it outside the mouth. Are those foul hooked fish?
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Re: Hook under chin
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2010, 12:55:43 PM »

My buddy hooked one on the Bulkley last week on a dry fly and after a few jumps and some good face rubbing on the rocks we landed it and saw it was hooked under the jaw however it had a bad gash in the upper jaw that was pumping blood so we knew it was originally hooked legally in the mouth but didn't finish that way. If it was a river where retention was allowed and it was a hatchery fish how many would bonk it or would you release because he finished off foul hooked.
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Re: Hook under chin
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2010, 09:50:20 PM »

Well I for one would release it.  If it aint inside the mouth it aint caught fair.  This is SPORT fishing not survival.   :(
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Re: Hook under chin
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2010, 03:28:08 PM »

I agree Kype, I asked my buddy that exact question and he also agreed the steelhead would swim away since we both felt it was snagged by the time he landed it.
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