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Just curious how many out there think the Fraser River should be closed down for good for salmon. (Recreationally)

Close the Fraser permanently.
- 5 (6.9%)
Keep things the way there are.
- 49 (68.1%)
Close it for 8 years. (Allows for 2 full cycles of all the salmon species.)
- 11 (15.3%)
Undecided.
- 7 (9.7%)

Total Members Voted: 71

Voting closed: October 23, 2010, 06:03:26 PM


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burnaby

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Re: Shut down the Fraser River?
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2010, 01:00:48 PM »

No matter how you look at it even with a gross margin of error rec. fishing has insignificant impact.

Yup, the rec. sock fishers are effectively irrelevant, their take is in the range of % of margin of errors (most stats are +/- several %).
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mirak

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Re: Shut down the Fraser River?
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2010, 11:51:17 AM »

i dont think shutting down the recreational  will help the salmon run ..
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Re: Shut down the Fraser River?
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2010, 03:00:05 PM »

The poll is regarding recreational fishing, as commercial and native are whole other issues.



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This makes no sense whatsoever.. ???
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Re: Shut down the Fraser River?
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2010, 03:35:24 PM »

If the closure is not for all sectors then I say leave it open.
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Re: Shut down the Fraser River?
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2010, 06:39:46 PM »

Last night, I was at a dinner and had a conversation with a retired commercial fisherman (whose son is still a commercial fisherman).  From his point of view, DFO mismanages the resource.  His view is that there are not enough commercial openings and that there are too many fish returning to the spawning grounds and most are dying and unable to spawn.   Just a different perspective, in the continuing argument as to who gets the right to kill the last fish...
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Re: Shut down the Fraser River?
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2010, 07:44:00 PM »

Since sockeye salmon don't bite in the freshwater phase, why not open it every day for the commercial fleets?
It certainly would discourage the flosser-to-be's.
Fishing is fishing, flossing isn't fishing!!
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Re: Shut down the Fraser River?
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2010, 08:41:53 PM »

funpig> With Commercial they can get the last fish. At least with Rec fishing even over a month's opening barely dented the population. Luv that too many returning argument, that's saying nature doesn't know how to manage the resource and that DFO only manages properly by letting commercial take the last fish.

shakespug> You do realize your drift fishing esp. in fast water flosses a lot of fish.
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Re: Shut down the Fraser River?
« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2010, 08:42:19 PM »

Flossing = gathering ie The hunter/gatherer.
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shakespug

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Re: Shut down the Fraser River?
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2010, 08:45:58 PM »

funpig> With Commercial they can get the last fish. At least with Rec fishing even over a month's opening barely dented the population. Luv that too many returning argument, that's saying nature doesn't know how to manage the resource and that DFO only manages properly by letting commercial take the last fish.

shakespug> You do realize your drift fishing esp. in fast water flosses a lot of fish.

Not if my leader is 2 feet short?  ???
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Nitroholic

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Re: Shut down the Fraser River?
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2010, 08:52:46 PM »

Since sockeye salmon don't bite in the freshwater phase, why not open it every day for the commercial fleets?
It certainly would discourage the flosser-to-be's.
Fishing is fishing, flossing isn't fishing!!

Yeah there's a great idea  ::)
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burnaby

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Re: Shut down the Fraser River?
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2010, 09:46:17 PM »

If you are drift fishing for salmon/steelhead in fast water a 2' leader can floss a lot of spawning fish.

So what species are you targetting?
In slow or fast water?
Not if my leader is 2 feet short?  ???
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Re: Shut down the Fraser River?
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2010, 09:36:00 PM »

It seems alright the way it is right now. Certain rules could be made sometimes if there's any concern about the salmon run
« Last Edit: October 12, 2010, 09:38:53 PM by FraserFishing »
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Re: Shut down the Fraser River?
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2010, 04:00:27 PM »

"Modify" the present system would have been a good item to include in the options.  I personally can't vote for any of the options shown.

Judging by the multiple complaints about 'line left on the bars', 'people not cleaning up their litter' 'too many Tim Horton's cups'.....  add to that: rod, reel, & tackle purchase,  boat & vehicle gas, DFO & CO fines ...  I'd have to assume that the Rec. fishers put a lot of money into Fraser Valley businesses.  The guide boats seemed to all be more than busy for 5 or so weeks as well.  I'd guess that's a couple of million more $'s than the commercial or First Nations groups pump into the valley economy.
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Re: Shut down the Fraser River?
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2010, 07:18:25 PM »

Eliminate the human race from the face of this planet for 1000 yrs would do great wonders for nature.
There's a book about that-estimates 300 years would do.
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