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Novabonker

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This Smells Fishy
« on: March 15, 2011, 09:31:41 PM »
My wife's company took everyone and the spouses up to the Observatory on Grouse Mountain for dinner. The guy that I sat next to is an avid angler and we chattered about hunting some steel. We opened the menu and lo and behold- the menu offered wild steelhead gravolox. I asked the waiter and he assured us that it was indeed wild steelhead. How can that be? They had a sustainable seafood insignia by the item for what that's worth. I used to use that as a guideline, but it appears to be useless. Here's a link to the menu:

http://www.grousemountain.com/Winter/dining/the-observatory/alacarte-menu.asp

(Review - ridiculously tiny portions,slow service, grossly over priced, had to stop for a bite on the way home)
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quill

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Re: This Smells Fishy
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2011, 09:46:54 PM »
Probably from the Olympic Peninsula Wa. Not good.
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Re: This Smells Fishy
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2011, 10:09:18 PM »
I'll vote farmed rainbow trout
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Re: This Smells Fishy
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2011, 10:19:54 PM »
Gross misrepresentation at the very least- Do they have a sustainable commercial wild steelhead fishery anywhere? This place went out of it's way to promote organic and the waiter swore that it was wild steelie. Nobody ordered it, so we didn't find out. (The apple fritter dessert was hilarious- 3 Timbits covered in jellyish film and a tablespoon of ice cream ;D)
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Re: This Smells Fishy
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2011, 10:51:35 PM »
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Re: This Smells Fishy
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2011, 12:03:17 AM »
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Re: This Smells Fishy
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2011, 12:03:48 AM »
Lois Lake, BC has a steelhead fish farm which supplies cactus club with their fish, possibly coming from the same place. i know costco also sells steelhead as well, not sure where thats from though.

^beat me to the punch
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Fish Assassin

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Re: This Smells Fishy
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2011, 12:15:04 AM »
Don't believe everything you read. It's all marketing. Alaska black cod anyone ?
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Re: This Smells Fishy
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2011, 07:14:37 AM »
Quote from: Fish Assassin on March 16, 2011, 12:15:04 AM
Don't believe everything you read. It's all marketing. Alaska black cod anyone ?

I prefer sablefish..... ::) ::)
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Re: This Smells Fishy
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2011, 07:15:42 AM »
 http://www.seaagraseafood.com/steelhead.php

The Steelhead are hand fed. You can't get any better than that. I bet they get a belly rub too.
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Re: This Smells Fishy
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2011, 08:44:06 AM »
I've asked about the Costco "steelhead" and apparently they're farmed from Washington state.
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Matt

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Re: This Smells Fishy
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2011, 02:08:34 PM »
I'll bet "wild" and "steelhead" are both loosely used here.  Land-locked lake rainbow perhaps?

I suppose some wild steelhead get caught in salmon nets, is it legal for the commercial guys to sell the bycatch?
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Re: This Smells Fishy
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2011, 05:02:29 PM »
Not sure what the issue here is.  I ate a wild steelhead the other day.  Caught it myself and ate it.  If there is a fishery ie: Vedder, what's wrong with eating a fish?  Now if you are distinguishing between a clipped (hatchery release) and a non clipped (wild), that is different.

Lots of ways for a restaurant to get sustainable wild steelhead.  I have eaten at local establishments that bring in their wild steelhead from Ontario (Niagara and Great Lakes)
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Re: This Smells Fishy
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2011, 06:28:11 PM »
Quote from: chironomidking on March 17, 2011, 05:02:29 PM
I have eaten at local establishments that bring in their wild steelhead from Ontario (Niagara and Great Lakes)

Those aren't steelhead
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Novabonker

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Re: This Smells Fishy
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2011, 07:11:12 PM »
And today I saw wild rainbow trout for sale in Save On. It was a fillet, whiteish colour and didn't resemble anything close to the red rainbow I've eaten.

Quote from: Nitroholic on March 17, 2011, 06:28:11 PM
Those aren't steelhead

They aren't even catfood. Tasted once- YUK :P

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