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[blaydRnr]

I understand what you are saying BUT there is no bend here. The wildlife act clearly states that if you do not produce your license when requested you commit an offense.
So he clearly broke the law. His intent does not matter. I am not trying too be a hard ***. It's like running a red light or driving down the HOV lane(by yourself)
 You clearly broke the law. If the officer catches you and decides to give you a warning consider yourself lucky. If not you pay your ticket.

For anyone who is interested heres the link to the wildlife act.   http://www.bclaws.ca/EPLibraries/bclaws_new/document/ID/freeside/00_96488_01#section97

i commend you on your values...BUT like debated before, have you never driven above the posted speed limit? how would you feel if out of ten cars going 110 at a 100 speed zone, you where singled out and ticketed? what would your argument be?

[bluesteele]

I hear what's being said.

Where I differ is I would not have an argument for the scenario you suggest. I was raised to take responsibility for my actions.

That's not a holier than thou attitude either. I get caught speeding. I pay the ticket. I get caught fishing without my license I pay the ticket.

Actually rereading the original post he asks "Don't they have to catch you right at the moment when you are fishing in order for them to give you a ticket?"

Don't they have to catch you....hmmmmm... actually seems suspect to me.

Everyone b!tches about not enough enforcement. Myself included. Now the CO's are out doing their job on a river and issue some tickets. What's the problem folks ?

They are doing their job.

Take your lumps ,boys, like a man and pay the ticket. 

Not fish with your license. Kill an out of season fish. Retain Fish in closed waters. Use barbed hooks. The list goes on and on.

Which laws are OK to break then protest when you get caught ?

[kingpin]

he has a licence...he made a mistake and forgot it....who cares? fight the stupid ticket and spend the money on more fishing gear

[1son]

fight it you did the right thing stopping and admitted your fault probably just had a stuck up CO they shoulda just gave u a chance to present your license within a week

[skaha]

he has a licence...he made a mistake and forgot it....who cares? fight the stupid ticket and spend the money on more fishing gear

--local sports shop got in major trouble... after being caught backdating licenses for innocent caught clients...

--I have two vehicles... one trailer... I took the trailer to the dump the other day and remembered I left the insurance papers in the other truck... guess what would happen if I got stopped... fine for  no insurance papers not for no insurance...extra fine only if I could not produce the documents later.

--fill your boots if you want to take the CO off the river to produce full report, evidence and time in court instread of letting him continue on the river to check the others there.
--So next thing is no ID at all .. again waste of time... especially if innocent.. escort back to vehicle for positive id etc. again time off the river that could be spent in a more productive mannor?
--I dislike onerous or ridiculous rules but having ID and proper tags, license etc is to allow CO to move on to next potential client who may actually be doing something more serious.

 

[bigblue]

I don't think that the posters were saying that forgetting your license is OK or that they were critical of the COs doing their job, just that as the OP felt strongly about his treatment, he should appeal the ticket. Like any traffic or other violations, a ticketed person has a right to appeal. Whether it may be accepted or not is another matter.  

[Bently]

Depending on how much BS one has to go through to get the ticket waived would be the deterring factor to me, maybe paying the fine is actually easier.

You were guilty as sin though  , so maybe paying the thing and supporting the cause is justified here. 

[blaydRnr]

it's never a waste of time to ensure fairness and justice...
just like the other accounts where the offenders were given a week to produce their licenses... to me, that is totally acceptable.

[n8]

lets hope bluesteele and all his fans never have to kill anyone in self-defense and can't prove it to the ones accusing him of first-degree murder.

[clarki]

lets hope bluesteele and all his fans never have to kill anyone in self-defense and can't prove it to the ones accusing him of first-degree murder.

Bluesteele has fan club?! 

[Sandman]

lets hope bluesteele and all his fans never have to kill anyone in self-defense and can't prove it to the ones accusing him of first-degree murder.

Oh come on, please.  Killing someone in self defense? What has that got to do with anything discussed here? The guy was fishing without a license.  It is not a case of mistaken identity, or being wrongfully accused.  Whether he owns a license or not, the law requires you carry one while fishing.  He was not carrying a license.  He made the mistake, not the officer.  Producing a license later would only change the offense from fishing without a license (WLA Section 12) to failing to produce a license (Section 97), both offenses are subject to the same penalties (Section 84-5).

And in response to the question "Don't they have to catch you right at the moment when you are fishing in order for them to give you a ticket?"

No.  They do not apparently need to "catch you right at the moment".  I was given a ticket for fishing with a barbed hook when the CO noticed a fly on my hat and asked if I had "... tried it today".  I replied yes, at which time he wrote me a ticket.  I had apparently forgotten to pinch the barb on that fly, and even though the fly I had on my line at the time was barb-less (as was every other fly on my person), I was ticketed for fishing with a barbed fly.  I made the error, not the officer, and I paid for the offense with a ticket.  Was the officer over-zealous at ticketing a guy that obviously knows and obeys the rules (when he remembers to anyway)?   Perhaps.  Should I try to argue my way out of paying for an offense of which I was so obviously guilty?  No.  That would be a waste of time and money.

[n8]

Oh come on, please.  Killing someone in self defense? What has that got to do with anything discussed here? The guy was fishing without a license.  It is not a case of mistaken identity, or being wrongfully accused.  Whether he owns a license or not, the law requires you carry one while fishing.  He was not carrying a license.  He made the mistake, not the officer.  Producing a license later would only change the offense from fishing without a license (WLA Section 12) to failing to produce a license (Section 97), both offenses are subject to the same penalties (Section 84-5).

And in response to the question "Don't they have to catch you right at the moment when you are fishing in order for them to give you a ticket?"

No.  They do not apparently need to "catch you right at the moment".  I was given a ticket for fishing with a barbed hook when the CO noticed a fly on my hat and asked if I had "... tried it today".  I replied yes, at which time he wrote me a ticket.  I had apparently forgotten to pinch the barb on that fly, and even though the fly I had on my line at the time was barb-less (as was every other fly on my person), I was ticketed for fishing with a barbed fly.  I made the error, not the officer, and I paid for the offense with a ticket.  Was the officer over-zealous at ticketing a guy that obviously knows and obeys the rules (when he remembers to anyway)?   Perhaps.  Should I try to argue my way out of paying for an offense of which I was so obviously guilty?  No.  That would be a waste of time and money.

you must be real dense to think that situations like these are so black and white. and you let the CO ticket you for having a fly with a barbed hook on your hat..  last i checked that wasn't against the law. sure, you said you "... tried it today" but you could easily have gotten out of the ticket just by using ur noggin and saying you just tried that PATTERN or something along those lines... you got weaseled out of your money buddy. if you want to graciously donate your money to the government, go right ahead. i'll spend my money on fishing gear.

[alwaysfishn]

Go ahead and try appeal your ticket....  if they accept it you won't need to pay the fine otherwise just suck it up and pay up.

The fact is you broke the law, you need to take responsibility for that. If the law meant for you to be able to produce your license at a later date, it would have been written that way.

I want to see the CO's out in the field doing their jobs, not sitting at the fax machine waiting for people to fax in their licenses.   

[HOOK]

I think it all depends on the CO and how much crap he/she has heard over his years. I saw a CO at Green Timbers the year the E-license first started (remember the site crashed and we all got that grace period until April 15 or 18th) anyways, the CO issued him a fine but also told the guy if he went a bought a license and came straight back he would rip up the ticket for him. Guy came and asked me where he could grab a license nearby (which was Walmart) and he returned in less than 30mins with a full 1 yr license, CO ripped up the ticket right then  

I have seen that same CO there many times since and he hands out loads of tickets to people without license, fishing 2 rods and keeping over their limits ALL THE TIME. I saw a new female CO last year who was very nice however very "by the book" and doesnt let stuff slide  

They way i see it here for this situation is that you should have LEFT and went home to get your license instead of sitting there, if they had grabbed you in the pakring lot then your excuse of going home to get it would have worked im sure however you continued to sit on the side of the river with a rod strung up and ready to fish. The way the CO sees it you will probably just fish after he leaves therefore you got off lucky that he didnt take your gear as well as giving you a ticket. Trust me i see them take gear more often then you think.

Just pay the fine, your in the wrong on this one, sorry

[azafai]

fight it ... you didn't do it by purpose....... I think at least you get a discount...  be more careful in the future and carry your licence always.