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[Dave]

can you be more explicit? how many spots, where?

[river walker]

Ive seen it above and below gill road. Don't need to look very far or hard. From what I understand it is legal .

[alwaysfishn]

The natives currently have food and ceremonial openings on the Fraser. If they are catching sockeye, it is incidental as they are using mesh sizes that are designed to target chinook.
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fraserriver/firstnations/HTMLs/CommunalOpeningTimes_Previous.html
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fraserriver/firstnations/HTMLs/CommunalOpeningTimes.html

[chris gadsden]

The natives currently have food and ceremonial openings on the Fraser. If they are catching sockeye, it is incidental as they are using mesh sizes that are designed to target chinook.
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fraserriver/firstnations/HTMLs/CommunalOpeningTimes_Previous.html
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fraserriver/firstnations/HTMLs/CommunalOpeningTimes.html

With opening like this I am very concerned how the Early Timed Chinooks will ever recover. At the start of this thread the FOC notice says "the cumulative CPUE in 2011 is well below the historical average". It does not make sense to me to have all these openings.

[DavidD]

I was out walking the dog with my missus and mother-in-law out at Kanaka Creek Park in Maple Ridge.  Saw about a 20 foot section of drift net (don't know how much more below the water surface) caught on one of the log boom poles (do they have a proper description? - the ones sticking out of the water that the booms are tied to) at the mouth of Kanaka Creek.  

[alwaysfishn]

With opening like this I am very concerned how the Early Timed Chinooks will ever recover. At the start of this thread the FOC notice says "the cumulative CPUE in 2011 is well below the historical average". It does not make sense to me to have all these openings.

They gotta eat....  

[Labman55]

I was out walking the dog with my missus and mother-in-law out at Kanaka Creek Park in Maple Ridge.  Saw about a 20 foot section of drift net (don't know how much more below the water surface) caught on one of the log boom poles (do they have a proper description? - the ones sticking out of the water that the booms are tied to) at the mouth of Kanaka Creek.   

Do you mean "Piles"? 

[JAwrey]

They gotta eat....  

But one would think that if it's in everybody's best interests, those of the natives included, that they could agree to close the fishery.

[ChromeBar]

I've seen it above and below Gill road and at Peg Leg. I might go for a boot this afternoon and try to get some pics. From what I understand it is legal... not that means anything the nets will always be there... but It stinks that we cant talk any sense into a group of people who claim so much of their lives revolve around these fish I know alot of them are trying but our government fails us by allowing them to keep going ... I Guess they will learn when the salmon are all but a few pairs and theres a strict shut down of the rivers and we have patrol boats shooting poachers like in africa. It seems to me year after year the majority of the fish dissapear after they hit the Fraser. Dont get me wrong ocean survival and other factors play a huge roll as well but combine them all together and you have a Hitler like recipe for complete extermination.

[river walker]

Times are tough for some.. They have the right to provide for their family's .. I say if they allow netting ..we should be able to fish as well .

[StillAqua]

I say if they allow netting ..we should be able to fish as well .

So Mom was wrong...two wrongs do make a right?

[river walker]

So Mom was wrong...two wrongs do make a right?

I did not say it was wrong , infact I said it was legal.  It should also be open and legal for sporties. 

[JAwrey]

I did not say it was wrong , infact I said it was legal.  It should also be open and legal for sporties. 

But it won't be - they will give the Natives whatever they want, as per usual, and the rest of us will have to watch while the desecration of a great river and the extinction of a great species occurs.

Go, B.C., go. 

J

[BwiBwi]

What are these hydroacoustic stations that you are referring to that "count" Chinook?  As Dave has mentioned Albion is for stock abundance.  It is for determining run strength, timing and biological information (i.e. DNA).  It may seem like a "count", but the actual counting occurs on the spawning grounds which can include stream walks, aerial surveys and mark-recapture studies. 

The closest one is just above Mission Bridge and another at Hell's Gate fishway.   

[Dave]

The closest one is just above Mission Bridge and another at Hell's Gate fishway.   

BiwiBwi,  the Pacific Salmon Commission indeed operates a hydro acoustic sockeye enumerating site at Mission; the only other hydroacoustic site up river is at Qualark, a DFO/Yale FN operation near Yale that uses a different technology, again designed to count sockeye but with proper funding could enumerate chinook.   Hells Gate numbers are generated by visual observations only, for all species.