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jacked55

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Bait ban?
« on: July 30, 2011, 09:30:59 PM »

I was trying to research the regulations for region 28 for the Capilano river non-tidal portion and it said august 1st bait ban? i was thinking of giving it a try and don't want to get busted doing something illegal. Could some one with more experience for the Cap confirm this or was i just mis-reading something.
Thanks.
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Re: Bait ban?
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2011, 09:34:35 PM »

 Capilano river non tidal is area 2 not area 28
 
Bait ban aug 1 - oct 31
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jacked55

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Re: Bait ban?
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2011, 09:44:21 PM »

just so im totally clear what exactly is considered bait during the ban? is it only stuff like roe or would powerbait or powermallos (etc.)  be acceptable?
Sorry if this is a rookie question.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Bait ban?
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2011, 09:52:29 PM »

"“Bait” is any foodstuff or natural substance
used to attract fish, other than wood,
cotton, wool, hair, fur or feathers. It
does not include fin fish, other than
roe. It includes roe, worms and other
edible substances, as well as scents and
flavourings containing natural substances
or nutrients."
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Re: Bait ban?
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2011, 09:54:56 PM »

"“Bait” is any foodstuff or natural substance
used to attract fish, other than wood,
cotton, wool, hair, fur or feathers. It
does not include fin fish, other than
roe. It includes roe, worms and other
edible substances, as well as scents and
flavourings containing natural substances
or nutrients."

Right... in other words....powerbait is a no, no.
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Re: Bait ban?
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2011, 08:24:58 PM »

in other words, if it has any smell to it natural or synthetic, you can't use it. you're basically limited to wool and spinners - this is to protect the 'summer steelhead'... supposedly...that is, the three fish run of summer steelhead that the cap gets :( glory days are over
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Re: Bait ban?
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2011, 08:26:40 PM »

hold on, it says 'natural substances or nutrients'...so if powerbait is a synthetic scent then it would therefore be alright I think...maybe others can clarify. ask your local tackle shop they'll probably know
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Re: Bait ban?
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2011, 10:31:16 PM »

hold on, it says 'natural substances or nutrients'...so if powerbait is a synthetic scent then it would therefore be alright I think...maybe others can clarify. ask your local tackle shop they'll probably know

Your best source of information is the Ministry that defines these regulations. Phone them up and they'd be happy to tell you whether Powerbait is legal or not during a bait ban.

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/contact/

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Re: Bait ban?
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2011, 04:45:37 PM »

I've asked a CO about this,power bait for sure is bait from him.He announced that if anything ,even the plastic curly grub, smells,it would be considered as bait too.
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Re: Bait ban?
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2011, 12:52:57 PM »

I just got off the phone with the DFO office and the official word is that substances like power bait are not required to list their ingredients on the label so there is no way for you to know whether or not it contains anything natural. That being said, the regulation is pretty grey. The exact advice i was given was, " is it really worth being the guy who tries to use it and then has to fight the legal battle and fines that follow". The spirit of the bait ban in the Capilano is to try and increase the spawning of the steelhead which is in extreme jeoprady right now. Hope this helps, i know i wont be using any power bait if i give it a try.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2011, 01:06:01 PM »

I just got off the phone with the DFO office and the official word is that substances like power bait are not required to list their ingredients on the label so there is no way for you to know whether or not it contains anything natural. That being said, the regulation is pretty grey. The exact advice i was given was, " is it really worth being the guy who tries to use it and then has to fight the legal battle and fines that follow". The spirit of the bait ban in the Capilano is to try and increase the spawning of the steelhead which is in extreme jeoprady right now. Hope this helps, i know i wont be using any power bait if i give it a try.


Sounds about right

If it came down to it, I would assume that Power Bait would ultimately be decided as "a part of the bait ban"

Whether I am right or wrong on that, I dont want to be the one the precedent is set with
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Re: Bait ban?
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2011, 09:39:27 PM »

yes could be an expensive lesson,lol.
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Re: Bait ban?
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2011, 12:03:24 AM »

IMO, bait bans on a river only encourage other methods of fishing that are more illegal...
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Re: Bait ban?
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2011, 11:28:43 AM »

IMO, bait bans on a river only encourage other methods of fishing that are more illegal...

How so?  Please elaborate.  Are bait fishermen more likely to break the law than other fishermen? 

Don't fear monger...  Banning bait is just that, banning bait.  Nothing more, nothing less.  It's been done on many rivers already and it hasn't encouraged "more illegal" activities, whatever that means.
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Re: Bait ban?
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2011, 09:39:52 PM »

i wish i could strap some herring to my plug and back troll the fraser.