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Re: Sockeye Opens In the Fraser
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2011, 12:37:17 AM »

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Re: Sockeye Opens In the Fraser
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2011, 12:46:46 AM »

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Re: Sockeye Opens In the Fraser
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2011, 06:58:43 AM »

Gotta love the MEAT mentality! LOL!
Don't you ever get tired of complaining about this time of year.
The guy wants to know of commercial openings so he does not waste his time.
Look at all the money that gets dumped into the valley at this time of year.
It is legal.
Get over it.
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Re: Sockeye Opens In the Fraser
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2011, 07:01:33 AM »

Fisheries notices for all three sectors can be found at http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm

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Re: Sockeye Opens In the Fraser
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2011, 07:11:48 AM »

Fish (sockeye) taken by FN fishers are sold openly in the LML and even advertised on Craig list for sale ranging from $10.00 to $14.00. Is this legal? If it is not why is DFO not investigating it?
I understand FN are only allowed to take fish for food and ceremonial purpose.

A friend told me one can buy fish cleaned and vacuum packed for $14.00 from FN fishers  located in Hope.

Maybe someone here in this forum can help clear the air on this issue. Thank you.


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Re: Sockeye Opens In the Fraser
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2011, 07:43:43 AM »

D.F.O is powerless to stop the illegal selling of salmon by natives because the department has been slashed to the bone.They dont have the manpower or money to investigate these allegations, so instead turn a blind eye to the problem.For as long as people buy from the natives they will continue to sell.I have never bought from the natives and never will,but i know people who do. Im sure everyone knows of someone who buys from the natives.This is a problem that will never go away.Our fragile fisheries gets abused by all user groups including the sporties. :'(
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Re: Sockeye Opens In the Fraser
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2011, 07:47:17 AM »

Even when DFO had the "power" and arrests were made, they never ended up being convicted and they never will.  Now that the DFO is skeleton they are too afraid to approach them - the poachers and sellers that is.
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Re: Sockeye Opens In the Fraser
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2011, 07:50:18 AM »

D.F.O is powerless to stop the illegal selling of salmon by natives because the department has been slashed to the bone.They dont have the manpower or money to investigate these allegations, so instead turn a blind eye to the problem.For as long as people buy from the natives they will continue to sell.I have never bought from the natives and never will,but i know people who do. Im sure everyone knows of someone who buys from the natives.This is a problem that will never go away.Our fragile fisheries gets abused by all user groups including the sporties. :'(

Our fisheries is not as fragile as the media makes it out to be.  Certain runs are fragile but I'm sure you know the Adams is alive and strong as well is the chilko, birkenhead, stuarts, pitt, ect....
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Re: Sockeye Opens In the Fraser
« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2011, 07:50:36 AM »

Don't you ever get tired of complaining about this time of year.
The guy wants to know of commercial openings so he does not waste his time.
Look at all the money that gets dumped into the valley at this time of year.
It is legal.
Get over it.

I am not complaining.
I love sockeye season. I get to fill up the freezer with good protein for cheap.
All it takes is one phone call to the friendly first nations neighbor.
Gutted, cleaned and delivered...10 bucks a piece.
Nothing like helping our FN brethren make an extra buck or two as their life is tough as it is.

And I don't need to browse internet forums to learn about commercial openings. :D


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Re: Sockeye Opens In the Fraser
« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2011, 08:18:15 AM »

I am not complaining.
I love sockeye season. I get to fill up the freezer with good protein for cheap.
All it takes is one phone call to the friendly first nations neighbor.
Gutted, cleaned and delivered...10 bucks a piece.
Nothing like helping our FN brethren make an extra buck or two as their life is tough as it is.

And I don't need to browse internet forums to learn about commercial openings. :D


Are you admitting that you illegally buy salmon from the natives??
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Re: Sockeye Opens In the Fraser
« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2011, 08:58:55 AM »

Are you admitting that you illegally buy salmon from the natives??

Nothing illegal about it. The gentleman in question has a quota that he can dispose of as he pleases.
And so do many other FN fishers.

Keep bashing the FNs without having the slightest idea about how things work.

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Re: Sockeye Opens In the Fraser
« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2011, 09:12:25 AM »

Keep bashing the FNs without having the slightest idea about how things work.

Milo, haven't you figured out that that is how things work around here? People post opinion, stated as fact, with no evidence to back it up. That's what makes these forums so entertaining.
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Re: Sockeye Opens In the Fraser
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2011, 09:17:53 AM »

Nothing illegal about it. The gentleman in question has a quota that he can dispose of as he pleases.
And so do many other FN fishers.

Keep bashing the FNs without having the slightest idea about how things work.


So your saying there is no illegal selling of salmon going by First Nations people ???
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Re: Sockeye Opens In the Fraser
« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2011, 09:21:08 AM »

Im a bit suprised by your comments Milo... Nothing like helping our FN brethren make an extra buck or two as their life is tough as it is.

Im willing to bet the bulk of cash goes to 5% of your "FN brethren" while the other 95% get nothing, there are "Classes" in all societies, your fooling yourself if you actually buy what your saying. IMHO ;)
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Re: Sockeye Opens In the Fraser
« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2011, 09:23:08 AM »

One thing to Note:

The current status of the Fraser River sockeye return provides for limited
recreational sockeye retention opportunities at this time in the non-tidal
waters of the Fraser River in Region 2 due to a small total allowable catch and
uncertainty in the estimated returns.

Looks like the move to limit recreational sector access to sockeye in the same way Halibut is being managed has come to our doorstep even sooner than I expected...

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Nicole

Very scary indeed, that they are already using the term TAC in salmon fishery notices. I really hope DFO does not make the same mistake twice and like halibut, start handing out quota to commercial on what is a common property.
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