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[ihatefisheadsoup]

"wool or roe thats the question" rescently I have been going to the vedder canal every weekend. every time I go home empty handed. I am not mad or anything because after all its fishing:) I have been using roe for most of the time(not a single bite) I tried to use as little as I could on my size 4 hook, because I far as I know coho will take small presentation. I see almost everyone is using single egg size wool, I dont want to give up to use egg because I still have LOTS of roe in my fridge. what am I doing wrong? should I move away from the canal? I am using 20lbs main and 12lbs leader with #4 gama hook. any advice?

[Athezone]

To answer your question, roe is the better option. I would suggest not staying in one spot to long and to have an alternate rod set up with a Croc or other lure on it and to try that every now and again. Fishing's not an exact science and you can still be fishing correctly but get skunked. Don't dismay. If anything, I would suggest making your hook size at least a #1 size and to keep trying.

I know it's not the greatest amount of advice but sometimes just a slight change produces good results. Also I would suggest making sure your bait is at the right depth. Find bottom and move it up one or two feet so that the presentation is easily seen by the fish. There are lot's fish in there right now as evidenced by the reports so don't give up, just try different techniques and a few other locations and you should find them. Good Luck !!!!

[killer fisher]

my advice is use roe but keep changing ur spots

[bluenoser]

You would be surprised at how big a chunk of roe they will hit sometimes...even the jacks...I know I was.

Try different coloured roe if one colour is not working, alot of guys use 8lb leader...with the water as clear as it is that is what I'm using....other than that as others have said already try more than one location when your not getting bites.

Personally I never usually have much luck with Coho when I'm at a run with lots of people so try finding a spot away from the crowds...easier said than done.

BN

[ihatefisheadsoup]

Thanks for the replies, I guess I will change my spot, might go up to tamahi pool area. thanks

[Athezone]

Yes bluenoser is correct. It's not easy to do but with a little hiking one can usually find a calm spot away from the crowds. And when you do and the fishing is great and there's no-one around it's a fabulous feeling. Your very own private piece of heaven, at least for the time being, lol.

I usually start with a piece of roe the size of a quarter or slightly less as it gets whittled down after a few casts and the fish will hit it even when it's a big piece. I use Maxima Ultra Green 10lb test myself and don't forget to bring that extra rod with the lure. It's a great way to fish when you can just put down one and pick the other up and away you go. Caught many upon switching styles. Good Luck and Good Fishing !!!!

[brookboy]

As i was told, if your trying to catch coho, find a location where there is little to no traffic.  The less people there are the more chance of coho appearing.  Also the depth you are fishing has proved to me to be a big deal.  Like everyone's been saying keep changing it up but also be patient, having confidence in your technique has a lot to do with the success you have on the river.

[Fish Assassin]

Use wool and give the roe to me. 

[bigblue]

"wool or roe thats the question" rescently I have been going to the vedder canal every weekend. every time I go home empty handed. I am not mad or anything because after all its fishing:) I have been using roe for most of the time(not a single bite) I tried to use as little as I could on my size 4 hook, because I far as I know coho will take small presentation. I see almost everyone is using single egg size wool, I dont want to give up to use egg because I still have LOTS of roe in my fridge. what am I doing wrong? should I move away from the canal? I am using 20lbs main and 12lbs leader with #4 gama hook. any advice?

Canal area is clear, slow and pressured, so normally you would want to go light.
But if everyone is doing the samething, sometimes it works to go the other way.
Use a #2 gammie hook with a 30" leader of either 10~12lb fluorocarbon or 8lb Maxima ultragreen and put on a nice big chunk of roe the size of a loonie.
Here the leader has to be soft and light enough so that the big chunk of roe will flow naturally with the current.
If you have good roe, sometimes a coho will not be able to resist the temptation and chomp on it.
Also, if you are targeting cohos, you have to figure out where they are sitting in a run as springs and cohos normally don't mix well.
Tight lines!

[ihatefisheadsoup]

I use Maxima Ultra Green 10lb test myself and don't forget to bring that extra rod with the lure. It's a great way to fish when you can just put down one and pick the other up and away you go. Caught many upon switching styles. Good Luck and Good Fishing !!!!

Now that you mentioned carrying another rod with me, I wanted to ask, what is the best water condition(fast or slow) to use spinners for coho, I have seen anyone using spinner on the canal at all, I know that Rodney uses spinners/blades for coho. I also wanted to know if I can swap my spinning reel onto my shimano technium drifting rod? Reason why is that I don’t want to carry two rods with me. Thanks in advance

[Ed]

I would say that Roe is probably still the better choice. With imitation bait (wool,flies, etc) presentation etc is very important but with Roe (not sure if you smell your finger after you touch it), fish will smell that even if your presentation isn't the best. But i would agree that you might have to change the type of roe, one time I went to the Thompson (not sure if it applies to vedder) I had some regular roe and the other one was a procure roe. The procure roe worked a lot better.

[salmonsturgeontrout]

roe for sure, got 4 hatchery this morning, water was clear so i went smaller, #4 hooks, 6 lb. fluoro, and nickel sized chunk of roe. sometimes bigger works better but today it was smaller

[ihatefisheadsoup]

roe for sure, got 4 hatchery this morning, water was clear so i went smaller, #4 hooks, 6 lb. fluoro, and nickel sized chunk of roe. sometimes bigger works better but today it was smaller

6lbs!! wow! I have been using 12lbs ultra green, is that too much!?

[bunnta]

i've always used 8lbs leaders. the problem could be you are not putting the roe where the fish is, the area you are fishing...do you see people catching anything? im pretty sure the canal is pretty pressured. Most of the time i find the hoes sitting in the tailout in the more shallow area in the canal. You want coho right not spring so pick better portions of the run to fish.

[Athezone]

Hi ihfhs, yes you can certainly switch one reel with the other onto the same rod or just cut the roe hook and put on a lure but I don't. The reason being is that fishing is like a poker game. Before you know it 5 hours have passed by and it seems like only 2 and you've lost valuable time buggering back and forth with hook set-ups.

It is an inconvenience carrying two rods but once you have your spot that inconvenience is quickly balanced by the time you now save not having to switch back and forth. And no, in my opinion 12 lb. maxima is fine to use. Remember some of these fish weigh 15,
16 lbs. and even more and then factor in the current and with 6 lb. flouro you'll be chasing your prey.

Quick in, quick out, if it's wild. The less stress the better and if your presentation is correct and the fish are there eventually one will bite, hopefully. Remember your depth, a 3 ft. leader with enough weight so that your float is floating straight up with the current and a good chunk of roe and your'e good to go. Good Luck !!!