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ihatefisheadsoup

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Re: wool or roe for the vedder?
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2011, 12:43:13 PM »

Hi ihfhs, yes you can certainly switch one reel with the other onto the same rod or just cut the roe hook and put on a lure but I don't. The reason being is that fishing is like a poker game. Before you know it 5 hours have passed by and it seems like only 2 and you've lost valuable time buggering back and forth with hook set-ups.

It is an inconvenience carrying two rods but once you have your spot that inconvenience is quickly balanced by the time you now save not having to switch back and forth. And no, in my opinion 12 lb. maxima is fine to use. Remember some of these fish weigh 15,
16 lbs. and even more and then factor in the current and with 6 lb. flouro you'll be chasing your prey.

Quick in, quick out, if it's wild. The less stress the better and if your presentation is correct and the fish are there eventually one will bite, hopefully. Remember your depth, a 3 ft. leader with enough weight so that your float is floating straight up with the current and a good chunk of roe and your'e good to go. Good Luck !!!

thank you for the info, Athezone! you guys are awsome. I wont give up on the roe! one of these days I will get my line tight!
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Re: wool or roe for the vedder?
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2011, 05:00:02 PM »

Roe is the ticket, not all, but mostly ones using just wool are long linning or flossing althought some will swear up and down they are not. If you donot believe me ask "The Master" ;D ;D ;D
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Re: wool or roe for the vedder?
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2011, 06:45:35 PM »

Roe is the tcket, not all, but mostly ones using just wool are long linning or flossing althought some will swear up and down they are not. If you ndonot believe me ask "The Master" ;D ;D ;D
Last Friday I was fishing next to 2 guys I didn't know. One was fishing roe, one was fishing wool and I was fishing blades. There was a slow pool stacked with coho 100 feet away from us. Everyone was short floating and early in the day when someone managed a drag free drift in the right area the float went down.
Roe guy hooked the most, while wool guy and I hooked quite a few. None were foul hooked and for certain none were lined.
After the sun hit the hits dropped off for everyone even though the fish were still there.
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Re: wool or roe for the vedder?
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2011, 07:40:47 PM »

Roe is the tcket, not all, but mostly ones using just wool are long linning or flossing althought some will swear up and down they are not. If you ndonot believe me ask "The Master" ;D ;D ;D

With all due respect to "The Master", not always the case.
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Re: wool or roe for the vedder?
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2011, 08:30:40 PM »

With all due respect to "The Master", not always the case.

I have never come across a situation fishing for biting salmon where wool is more effective than roe. It just doesn't happen. Period.

Then again I haven't landed a single coho this year on the Vedder so take it for what its worth  ;)
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Re: wool or roe for the vedder?
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2011, 10:07:26 PM »

try a single egg with white wool you'd be surprised  :o
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Re: wool or roe for the vedder?
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2011, 10:28:00 PM »

With all due respect to "The Master", not always the case.
Of course you are wrong about the Leafs too. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: wool or roe for the vedder?
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2011, 12:26:41 AM »

Thanks for the replies, I guess I will change my spot, might go up to tamahi pool area. thanks

Was at Tamahi this past Friday and there wasnt a vacant rock to stand on, also most of the beach area (adjacent to campground) was occupied.  There were a couple of spots above the Kyak course but that was it for vacant space. Watched from the road bridge for a while I saw five salmon yanked whithin approx ten minutes, most of them hooked from the deeper pools behind the larger rocks .

Wondered why I was getting strange looks,  could it have been my flyrod ? ....Lol  ::)
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Re: wool or roe for the vedder?
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2011, 07:39:10 AM »

Definitely does happen on some rivers at certain times... isn't that coho in your avatar caught on wool?

No.

I can appreciate that in certain situations fish may require a more subtle presentation, but with that being said, why not fish a single egg in a roe bag? Both look the same, however, one is loaded with amino acids, hormones/pheromones, and the chemicals that anadromous fish crave as they transition from salt water to fresh.
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Re: wool or roe for the vedder?
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2011, 08:13:07 AM »

I would agree that roe can be "lights out", where wool - not so much.  However, I've had cases where the fish will take wool and only a certain colour or even shade of colour produces.  I've even gone down to 6 lb fluorocarbon leader on a small piece of wool and caught the odd coho, where the same presentation on 8 lb leader failed to work.  That tells me that the fish can and will take wool, but I don't believe they'll chase it down (I've had nice coho chase my roe while I'm reeling in - and actually caught a few that way).  For those who think that you can ONLY floss coho with wool - I'd have to disagree.   Yes, wool is often used to floss fish (Tamihi is a prime example of where this happens).  But wool can work under certain conditions.  Just don't expect a fish on every cast.

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Re: wool or roe for the vedder?
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2011, 12:46:16 PM »

I have a hard time catching coho on roe this year again, maybe I better try wool and lenghten out my 14 inch leader a couple of feet. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: wool or roe for the vedder?
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2011, 12:56:46 PM »

Green wool seems to work the best. Always out fishes roe
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Re: wool or roe for the vedder?
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2011, 01:05:03 PM »

I have a hard time catching coho on roe this year again, maybe I better try wool and lenghten out my 14 inch leader a couple of feet. ;D ;D ;D

Maybe you should change your cure recipe.  FFM and I have had no problems this year! ;D
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Re: wool or roe for the vedder?
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2011, 03:07:44 PM »

All depends what kind of water you're fishing on the Vedder.  If its slower waters, such as the canal, or slower pools throughout the river then you would prefer using roe.
If you are fishing faster water or faster moving pools, then wool would be a lot more efficient.  Fishing roe in quicker moving water is tough to get it to stay on the hook, and could get frustrating at times.  :P

You could also use roe bags in faster water; however, I still would consider wool.

Anyways,
Good luck.
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Re: wool or roe for the vedder?
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2011, 05:16:43 PM »

I have never come across a situation fishing for biting salmon where wool is more effective than roe. It just doesn't happen. Period.

Then again I haven't landed a single coho this year on the Vedder so take it for what its worth  ;)
   I've never even seen someone short floating with wool and I've never seen a coho caught legitimately on wool so if you want to be a fisher use roe.
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