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Re: Lethal virus from European salmon found in wild BC salmon
« Reply #315 on: December 13, 2011, 09:37:08 PM »

Cognitive dissonance is a wonderful thing.

Do you understand what a lobbyist is and does? The concerned citizens like yourself who put their money where their mouth is provide considerably less funding for her cause than re-granting by other charities. Voluntary disclosure of those backers would greatly enhance Morton's credibility.

Or maybe not ................
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Re: Lethal virus from European salmon found in wild BC salmon
« Reply #316 on: December 14, 2011, 05:36:27 AM »

DFO is doing what the government of the day asks them to do. One way to avoid the obvious conflict of interest that DFO is in, would be for the government to move the responsibility for these farms to another agency....   Salmon farming was obviously not well thought out since the beginning!

You're quite right that the core of the problem isn't DFO, it's the politicians that have been pushing aquaculture from afar without investing the time and resources into DFO to first understand conclusively whether or not salmon farming is environmentally sustaianable in BC. It's been suggested that Agriculture Canada take over salmon farming from DFO. Somehow I doubt AGCan would have much concern about potential impacts on wild fish.
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Re: Lethal virus from European salmon found in wild BC salmon
« Reply #317 on: December 14, 2011, 04:57:44 PM »

CTV video on the Fish Farm protest on the Island from yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LTV8PSy1K7E

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Re: Lethal virus from European salmon found in wild BC salmon
« Reply #318 on: December 14, 2011, 05:04:15 PM »

Please find enclosed a press update including:

 

"DFO Crime Scene - Justice for Wild Salmon!" (Superheroes 4 Salmon, 14th December): http://www.superheroes4salmon.org/blog/dfo-crime-scene-justice-wild-salmon

 

"Cohen Inquiry Reconvenes to Study ISA Virus in Pacific Salmon" (Pacific Free Press, 14th December): http://www.pacificfreepress.com/news/1-/10429-cohen-inquiry-reconvenes-to-study-isa-virus-in-pacific-salmon.html

 

"Senate to Hold Hearing on GE Salmon" (Food Safety News, 14th December): http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/12/senate-to-hold-hearing-on-ge-salmon/

 

 

"The Battle Over Frankenfish Heads to Congress: GMO salmon's potential impact will be debated in front of a Senate subcommittee this week" (Take Part, 13th December): http://www.takepart.com/article/2011/12/13/battle-over-frankenfish-heads-congress

 

"Atlantic Salmon - how did this happen to British Columbia?" (Alexandra Morton, 13th December): http://alexandramorton.typepad.com/alexandra_morton/2011/12/the-recent-history-of-atlantic-salmon-egg-imports-into-british-columbia.html

 

"Editorial: It's not the time to gut Fisheries" (The Times Colonist, 13th December): http://www.timescolonist.com/technology/Editorial+time+Fisheries/5854324/story.html

 

"Rally planned at Tofino DFO" (The Westerly News, 13th December): http://www2.canada.com/westerly/story.html?id=adac177c-be82-4d7b-bc83-ca47f0eee3f9

 

"Bonny Glambeck and Kalilah Discuss (and sing about) Infectious Salmon Anaemia" (Long Beach Radio, 13th December): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxVy__hnheI

 

"Lawsuit: Overfishing leaves salmon, whales hungry" (Associated Press/Seattle Times, 13th December): http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017007791_aporoverfishinglawsuit.html

 

"Cooke Aquaculture pesticide case adjourned until March" (The Digby Courier, 13th December): http://www.digbycourier.ca/News/2011-12-13/article-2833712/Cooke-Aquaculture-pesticide-case-adjourned-until-March/1

 

"Fish farm lobster death case adjourned" (CBC News, 13th December): http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/story/2011/12/13/nb-cooke-aquaculture-charges-610.html

 

"Which drugs do the DFO and Canadian Food Inspection Agency need for their premature communication issue? (hairtrigger problems anyone?)" (The Salmon Guy, 13th December): http://www.salmonguy.org/?p=4677

 

"Fisheries 'workforce adjustment' worrisome for coastal communities" (Times Colonist/Vancouver Sun, 13th December): http://www.timescolonist.com/technology/Fisheries+workforce+adjustment+worrisome+coastal+communities/5850980/story.html

 

"Suzuki Foundation disputes Cooke claims of sustainable aquaculture" (South Coast Today, 13th December): http://www.southcoasttoday.ca/content/suzuki-foundation-disputes-cooke-claims-sustainable-aquaculture

 

"Depleted Fish Stocks Drive Chinese Fishermen into Korean Waters" (The Chosunilbo, 13th December): http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/12/13/2011121301529.html 

 

 

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Re: Lethal virus from European salmon found in wild BC salmon
« Reply #319 on: December 15, 2011, 01:58:32 PM »

Salmon virus in B.C. for decades, say biologists
World experts defend sample results
 
 
   
Department of Fisheries (DFO) biologists have told a federal inquiry that fish samples, dating back more than two decades have tested positive for a potentially lethal wild sockeye fish virus — but that fact wasn't publicly reported.

Dr. Kristi Miller, the head of molecular genetics for DFO in Nanaimo, told the Cohen Commission on Thursday that frozen samples dating back to 1986 have been tested, and show infectious salmon anemia (ISA) has been in B.C. waters for at least 25 years.

The public inquiry into the decline of the Fraser River sockeye salmon stocks was extended for three extra days after ISA was detected in wild B.C. salmon two months ago by Simon Fraser University Prof. Rick Routledge.

That revelation put the Canadian Food Inspection Agency and B.C.'s fish farming industry on high alert, but those results couldn't be confirmed and government scientists announced earlier this month that extensive testing came up negative.

The alleged presence of ISA in B.C. salmon stocks is controversial because the virus had never before been found in salmon off B.C.'s coast, either in the Atlantic species that are farmed in ocean pens or in B.C.'s indigenous wild salmon.

The virus is known to be devastating to farmed Atlantic salmon and opponents of the fish farm industry have suggested farmed fish could spread ISA to wild stocks, with catastrophic results.

The virus has been linked to the destruction of the salmon farming industry in Chile and Europe.

The crisis has prompted the Canada Food Inspection Agency to develop a regular surveillance program for ISA, that is expected to be in place as early as next spring.

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Re: Lethal virus from European salmon found in wild BC salmon
« Reply #320 on: December 15, 2011, 02:08:42 PM »

Follow the Cohen Inquiry here on facebook.

http://www.facebook.com/events/263406340380314/

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Re: Lethal virus from European salmon found in wild BC salmon
« Reply #321 on: December 15, 2011, 03:29:02 PM »

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/12/15/bc-salmon-virus-claims.html

So its been here for decades, quick Alexa get the spin doctors working.
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Re: Lethal virus from European salmon found in wild BC salmon
« Reply #322 on: December 15, 2011, 04:31:49 PM »

Here is one of the videos I shot today on the march to Mark Strahl's office with a letter about fish farm concerns.

http://youtu.be/3KAwop6PUXc

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Re: Lethal virus from European salmon found in wild BC salmon
« Reply #323 on: December 15, 2011, 04:47:40 PM »

The Canadian Press

Date: Thursday Dec. 15, 2011 6:53 PM ET

VANCOUVER — There are indications that for decades now salmon in British Columbia may have been carrying a virus that wiped out stocks in Norway and Chile, but experts don't know if it will have the same devastating results.

Four pre-eminent fish scientists relayed their suspicions during an extraordinary meeting of the Cohen Commission, which has spent 21 months investigating the sharp decline of B.C.'s Fraser River sockeye.

The commission reconvened after the alarming discovery by a Simon Fraser University professor of infectious salmon anaemia in two smolts in northern B.C.

Kristi Miller, who heads a molecular genetics lab for the federal Fisheries Department, joined two other Canadians and a Norwegian on a panel appearing before the commission.

"I clearly believe that there is a virus here that is very similar to ISA virus in Europe, but we really do need to get a fuller sequence to get more information about how similar it is," said Miller.

"Also, we have not established that it causes disease."

Miller gave evidence Thursday in the first of three days of the special sitting to discuss infectious salmon anaemia.

Her submissions came from research conducted in her Nanaimo, B.C., laboratory. She noted the testing procedures were not standard and differed from another government-funded lab on the East Coast, but suggested her tests could be more sensitive.

Miller told the inquiry that she has not only tested recent samples of fish, but went back into her massive archive and ran the same procedure on fish from 1986 and found a similar pattern.

"Which suggests that not only has this been here for at least 25 years, but it's been here probably quite considerably longer than that," she said.

Some research indicates Pacific salmon could be resistant to the virus.

ISA, an influenza-like virus, has killed millions of fish in Chile after it's believed to have been transported from Norway, where it was first discovered in the 1980s.

Government scientists from the Department of Fisheries and Canadian Food Inspection Agency moved to assuage fears by conducting further tests. Along with the Fisheries Minister, they announced the virus had not been detected and said public agencies will nonetheless develop a new surveillance plan to watch more closely for fish diseases.

The panel of scientists agreed more research needs to be done.

"In this case, I don't know where we are at this point because we do not have enough information, but it could really be that we are looking at another ISA that was there for a long time," said Nellie Gagne, a molecular biology scientist who leads a Department of Fisheries lab in Moncton, N.B.

"It's an interesting theory that I'm keen to see more work done on."

Gagne said her own lab had not turned up any samples she would consider positive, but noted that the lab uses "universal" test methods that look for known strains.

"If there are others, we don't know about it," she said.

Fred Kibenge, who works at the Atlantic Veterinary College which runs the reference lab for the virus in P.E.I., conducted the initial tests that came up with positive results on two smolts publicized widely in October.

He told the inquiry he believes the recent testing conducted by himself and Miller is "overwhelming" evidence of the virus. He also tried to substantiate an unpublished study from 2004 -- conducted in part by his wife -- that was leaked to media last month.

It concluded an asymptomatic form of the virus was occurring in some wild-salmon species in the north Pacific.

Kibenge noted the results that emerged from Miller's lab means that his wife's earlier tests may yet be credible.

However, one scientists came out strongly opposing the results found in Miller's lab.

"We have a lot of indications that the virus could be present in Pacific salmon, but there is no hard evidence," said Are Nylund, a professor with the department of biology at the University of Bergen in Norway.

Nylund, who has studied the virus for years, described Miller's testing procedures as "a bit strange."

He did note he believes the virus could spread from eastern Canada, where it has infected Atlantic salmon, to the West Coast, similar to the theorized transfer of the virus from Norway to Chile.



Read more: http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/SciTech/20111215/salmon-virus-report-111215/#ixzz1gecS9EZG

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Re: Lethal virus from European salmon found in wild BC salmon
« Reply #324 on: December 15, 2011, 05:03:07 PM »

Interesting observation from Dr. Kristi Miller at Cohen.

‎25% of the farmed salmon tested positive for ISA in the Creative Salmon farms in Clayoquot Sound says Dr Miller. Other pathogens and viruses were found. "We did find fish positive for the virus which is thought to cause HSMI"


HSMI  http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090406073545.htm
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Re: Lethal virus from European salmon found in wild BC salmon
« Reply #325 on: December 15, 2011, 06:25:41 PM »

Chris, I know your heart is racing :D  Calm yourself and wait for Monday ;)
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Re: Lethal virus from European salmon found in wild BC salmon
« Reply #326 on: December 15, 2011, 06:36:59 PM »

Chris, I know your heart is racing :D  Calm yourself and wait for Monday ;)

I think it may be your heart that is doing the racing Dave....   Must be difficult for you; watching all the evidence coming out.

I'm sure it was much easier denying there was a problem when neither DFO or the farms were forthcoming about the diseases they are generating.
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Re: Lethal virus from European salmon found in wild BC salmon
« Reply #327 on: December 15, 2011, 07:38:13 PM »

Chris, I know your heart is racing :D  Calm yourself and wait for Monday ;)
At 68 years I am glad to have it just beating. ;D

I better post the next video from the rally today, I see you in it, thanks for coming. ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #329 on: December 15, 2011, 07:50:47 PM »

No alwaysfishin, there was nothing new announced today.  A virus that has probably been here in the Pacific for a long time (see some of Nylunds comments) was found by researchers because an activist thought it's disclosure might help her agenda to rid BC of salmon farms.
But here's the issue for said activist -  Pacific salmon are pretty much immune to it and it apparently it does not harm farmed Atlantics.  Kind of hard to find a problem, so far.



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