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[nickredway]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAcnDevkTnc

[StillAqua]

I'm going to call you on this Dan, even if it is at the risk of bursting the "unbiased" educational system bubble.
Post secondary education is a business. They are there to fill classrooms with tuition paying students. Many of them get financial support from big business. This trend is becoming more prevalent as government funding gets cut back and students have a more difficult time affording the tuition.
Now do you think that the school's aquaculture program would teach anything negative about fish farming, knowing that there is a huge potential demand for employees (tuition paying students) in this field? Would they say anything negative about fish farms, knowing that the government that supports fish farming also provides a large portion of the school's funding?
Of course they wouldn't, just like the marketing department for fish farms isn't going to advertise the negatives about their product.

You're confusing the corporate side of post secondary institutes with the academic side. The corporate side does run just like a business, soliciting funds from individuals, corporations and governments, increasing enrollments and tuition fees, and chasing after wealthy foreign students.

But the academic side is completely independent and this is a fundamental part of academic freedom which is enshrined in the university charters and fervently defended in the institutions. Of course individual professors and instructors, like other human beings, can have their personal biases, but to suggest that corporations could buy their way in and influence what teaching and research is conducted in a university is a naive conspiracy theory. From UBC's charter:

"The members of the University enjoy certain rights and privileges essential to the fulfilment of its primary functions: instruction and the pursuit of knowledge. Central among these rights is the freedom, within the law, to pursue what seems to them as fruitful avenues of inquiry, to teach and to learn unhindered by external or non-academic constraints, and to engage in full and unrestricted consideration of any opinion. This freedom extends not only to the regular members of the University, but to all who are invited to participate in its forum. Suppression of this freedom, whether by institutions of the state, the officers of the University, or the actions of private individuals, would prevent the University from carrying out its primary functions. All members of the University must recognize this fundamental principle and must share responsibility for supporting, safeguarding and preserving this central freedom. Behaviour that obstructs free and full discussion, not only of ideas that are safe and accepted, but of those which may be unpopular or even abhorrent, vitally threatens the integrity of the University's forum. Such behaviour cannot be tolerated.

[alwaysfishn]

But the academic side is completely independent and this is a fundamental part of academic freedom which is enshrined in the university charters and fervently defended in the institutions.

      Whatever you say....

[chris gadsden]

Please find enclosed a press update including:

 

"Scientists On The Trail Of Potential Salmon Killer" (KLCC, 15th November): http://klcc.org/Feature.asp?FeatureID=2881

 

"Paying more for fewer results" (Chilliwack News, 15th November): http://www.chilliwacktimes.com/technology/Paying+more+fewer+results/5711442/story.html

 

"Disgraceful!: A Norwegian documentary showing the pollution from fishmeal and fish oil factories saw different companies react in different ways" (Intrafish, 15th November): http://www.intrafish.com/global/news/article1261222.ece

 

"Stop open-pen salmon farms, group tells Shelburne MLA" (The Chronicle Herald, 14th November): http://thechronicleherald.ca/business/32912-stop-open-pen-salmon-farms-group-tells-shelburne-mla

 

"Dissection Workshop and Q&A on Sampling for ISA Testing" (Salmon Are Sacred, 14th November): http://www.youtube.com/salmonaresacred

 

"Engineering salmon is cause for concern" (Anchorage Daily News, 14th November): http://www.adn.com/2011/11/14/2171152/engineering-salmon-is-cause-for.html

 

"'Craft-raised' salmon hits the market: Grieg launches high-end farmed salmon that uses less fishmeal, is easier on the environment" (Intrafish, 14th November): http://www.intrafish.com/global/news/article1261166.ece

 

"Grieg responds: 'We take lice seriously': The company has not made any attempt to hide lice outbreaks at its farms, says its CEO" (Intrafish, 14th November): http://www.intrafish.com/global/news/article1261086.ece

 

"Christy Clark's Chinese & Indian Takeaway" (Superheroes 4 Salmon, 14th November): http://www.superheroes4salmon.org/blog/christy-clark%E2%80%99s-chinese-indian-takeaway

 

"Infectious Salmon Anemia: the news keeps coming" (Southern Fried Science, 13th November): http://salmon.southernfriedscience.com/?p=294

 

"Tinker, Farmer, Stalker, Spy: The Man Who Loves Farmed Salmon, Jesus & Violent Video Games" (Superheroes 4 Salmon, 13th November): http://www.superheroes4salmon.org/blog/tinker-farmer-stalker-spy-man-who-loves-farmed-salmon-jesus-violent-video-games

 

"Wild about ISA!" (ReLAKSation, 12th November): http://www.callandermcdowell.co.uk/relaks529.html

 

 

Including new videos from Salmon Are Sacred on sampling for ISA testing:

 

Alex on You Tube ISA video.jpg

 

Watch online via: http://www.youtube.com/salmonaresacred

 

 

And on KLCC today from Jim Winton, chief of fish health research at the US Geological Survey in Seattle:

 

"This group of viruses has the ability to adapt to other species and stocks and become much more dangerous so one thing we really need to know is if this virus is present in the West how dangerous is it currently and how dangerous could it become for wild stocks"

 

And from Bruce Stewart, a biologist with the Northwest Indian Fisheries Council:

 

“Could it be a non-virulent form that has been here for years, not causing any problems? That’s definitely a possibility.”

 

Note that the Cohen Commission will convene a two-day hearing in mid-December to hear evidence on ISA – no date has been announced yet.  Details online here.

 

Read the official reports from the Canadian Food Inspection Agency on the second case of ISA in coho salmon in the Fraser River - online here

 

Read the report from the OIE Reference Laboratory on the positive samples in Fraser River chinook and chum – online here

 

Read the first official report of the European strain of ISA in sockeye salmon in Rivers Inlet on the Central Coast online here

 

Read "Positively Negative - How the CFIA Failed to Defuse ISA in BC".

 

For more background on the global spread of ISA read "ISA: Diary of Disease Disaster" and "Fish Farmageddon: The Infectious Salmon Aquacalypse" – online via:  http://www.wildsalmonfirst.org/fish-farmageddon-infectious-salmon-aquacalypse

 

 

Best fishes,

 

Don

 

[swimmingwiththefishes]

Unless you think everything is hunky dory with fish farms and know already more than anybody else , like Dave, you may want to check out the event below.

I've learned a ton from many of you, especially Chris, keep up the good work.

Tom

scientists’ think tank will convene at Simon Fraser University on November 30th and December 1st to discuss disease and pathogens in Pacific salmon.

The Centre for Coastal Science and Management at SFU invites you to join a panel of these scientists who will present their findings. They will address the following questions:
• What pathogens & diseases are impacting wild Pacific salmon populations?
• What do we know, what do we not know, & what do we need to know right now?
• What should we consider in terms of interacting stressors, cumulative impacts & diseases?
• How do we manage for uncertainty & the protection of wild salmon?

Date and Location:
December 1, 2011, 7:00 pm
SFU Harbour Centre, Room 1900, 515 West Hastings Street, Vancouver

Reservations:
Reservations are recommended as seating is limited. To reserve a seat, please visit
www.sfu.ca/reserve


More information: www.sfu.ca/cstudies/science

Laurie Wood
Coordinator
Continuing Studies in Science and Environment and
Centre for Coastal Science and Management
Simon Fraser University
8888 University Drive, WMX 1356
Burnaby, BC V5A 1S6
http://www.sfu.ca/cstudies/science

778.782.5466
lauriew@sfu.ca

[Dave]

Unless you think everything is hunky dory with fish farms and know already more than anybody else , like Dave, you may want to check out the event below.

Yeah, it's hard to be humble
Will you be attending?  If so, please report back to us as it sounds very interesting.

[chris gadsden]

More reading for Dave and the boys, will keeep them busy for a few hours  tomorrow digesting more evidence.

Please find enclosed a press update including:

 

"Atlantic salmon feedlots" (Legacy, December): http://issuu.com/steelhead-salmon-society/docs/legacy1211

 

"Kowtowing to industry" (The Courier-Islander, 16th November): http://www.canada.com/Kowtowing+industry/5717478/story.html

 

"Government of Canada Helps Put More Seafood on International Menus" (Marketwire, 16th November): http://www.marketwatch.com/story/government-of-canada-helps-put-more-seafood-on-international-menus-2011-11-16

 

"Sealice alert declared in neighborhood 10" (Fish Farming Xpert, 16th November): http://www.fishfarmingxpert.com/index.php?page_id=76&article_id=93086

 

"SFU didn't do ISA tests, it was veterinary college and results still pending" (The Courier-Islander, 16th November): http://www2.canada.com/courierislander/news/letters/story.html?id=84975c87-fd71-486f-91ae-385b9b9498e6

 

"Canadian officials checking reports of salmon disease in B.C." (Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, 16th November): http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/dec11/111201h.asp  

 

"Canadian officials say ‘No Confirmed Cases’ of salmon virus" (Chinook Observer, 15th November): http://www.chinookobserver.com/news/canadian-officials-say-no-confirmed-cases-of-salmon-virus/article_535c3aba-0ff0-11e1-ac82-001cc4c002e0.html

 

"Closed-containment salmon aquaculture under the lens" (iPolitics, 15th November): http://www.ipolitics.ca/2011/11/15/closed-containment-salmon-aquaculture-under-the-lens/

 

"Fish Farm Diseases Pass Genes to Human Diseases" (Fish Farm News & Science, 15th November): http://fishfarmnews.blogspot.com/2011/11/fish-farm-diseases-passed-to-humans-nov.html

 

"Salmon Pens Recycled In Refurbishment Project" (The Fish Site, 15th November): http://www.thefishsite.com/fishnews/15930/salmon-pens-recycled-in-refurbishment-project

 

"Another concern about aquaculture" (CBC Radio, 14th November): http://www.cbc.ca/fisheriesbroadcast/episodes/2011/11/14/another-concern-about-aquaculture/?mid=52

 

"5 Fish You Should Never Eat - #2 Atlantic salmon" (Yahoo news, 14th November): http://health.yahoo.net/experts/eatthis/5-fish-you-should-throw-back

 

"Genetically-engineered salmon on the dinner table?: AquaBounty CEO downplays criticism, talks up GE fish" (South West Farm Press, 14th November): http://southwestfarmpress.com/livestock/genetically-engineered-salmon-dinner-table

 

"Media watch: ISA goes public" (Seafood Source, 14th November): http://www.seafoodsource.com/newsarticledetail.aspx?id=12915

 

"Grieg debuts ‘craft raised’ salmon" (Seafood Source, 14th November): http://www.seafoodsource.com/newsarticledetail.aspx?id=12918

 

"Pesticide Poisoning of Lobsters Leads to Indictment" (ENews Park Forest, 13th November): http://www.enewspf.com/latest-news/science-a-environmental/28778-pesticide-poisoning-of-lobsters-leads-to-indictment.html

 

"GMO Food linked to Toxic Pesticides in Farmed Fish" (The Canadian, 12th November): http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/news/health/2011/11/12/1661.html

 

"Genetics could lead to ISA treatment" (FIS, 11th November): http://www.fis.com/fis/worldnews/worldnews.asp?monthyear=11-2011&day=11&id=47539&l=e&country=0&special=aquaculture&ndb=1&df=0

 

 

Including from the Chinook Observer:

 

"National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Administrator Jane Lubchenco has directed NOAA Fisheries to assemble a report on infectious salmon anemia — due by the end of November — that will outline steps needed on surveillance, research and response, including contingency plans for handling the potential spread of the virus."

 

From today's Courier-Islander:

 

"The weight of evidence that ISA is already in B.C. is beyond reasonable doubt and enough to convict a criminal in a court of law...If corporations really were people then Marine Harvest, Cermaq and Grieg (who together control 92 per cent of B.C.'s salmon farms) would already have been hung, drawn and quartered"

 

And from Ruth Salmon of the Canadian Aquaculture Industry Alliance who received over $1 million today from the Canadian Government:

 

"With this funding, our industry members can continue to deliver the powerful message to our major export markets that Canada is a world leader in the environmentally sustainable production of high quality farmed seafood products."

 

"From salmon and trout to oysters and mussels, Canada's aquaculture is second to none and plays a key role in keeping our economy strong," said Minister Ashfield on behalf of Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz.

 

Note that the Cohen Commission will convene a two-day hearing in mid-December to hear evidence on ISA – no date has been announced yet.  Details online here.

 

Read the official reports from the Canadian Food Inspection Agency on the second case of ISA in coho salmon in the Fraser River - online here

 

Read the report from the OIE Reference Laboratory on the positive samples in Fraser River chinook and chum – online here

 

Read the first official report of the European strain of ISA in sockeye salmon in Rivers Inlet on the Central Coast online here

 

Read "Positively Negative - How the CFIA Failed to Defuse ISA in BC".

 

For more background on the global spread of ISA read "ISA: Diary of Disease Disaster" and "Fish Farmageddon: The Infectious Salmon Aquacalypse" – online via:  http://www.wildsalmonfirst.org/fish-farmageddon-infectious-salmon-aquacalypse

 

 

Best fishes,

 

Don

 

 

[nickredway]

Fish Farmageddon: The Infectious Salmon Aquacalypse  Sounds like that's an objective article.

[Dave]

Fish Farmageddon: The Infectious Salmon Aquacalypse  Sounds like that's an objective article.

Too bad the link won't work- would have been a fun read

[Easywater]

Works for me:

http://www.wildsalmonfirst.org/fish-farmageddon-infectious-salmon-aquacalypse

[Dave]

Works for me:

http://www.wildsalmonfirst.org/fish-farmageddon-infectious-salmon-aquacalypse

Thanks Easywater.  Made my morning   Didn't know farmed salmon can get the clap; wonder what they do in those pens, eh?

[chris gadsden]

Thanks Easywater.  Made my morning   Didn't know farmed salmon can get the clap; wonder what they do in those pens, eh?

Glad I donnot have money invested here then.

See you Saturday at the fishing tackle sale, no fish farm talk allowed.

[Dave]

Glad I donnot have money invested here then.

See you Saturday at the fishing tackle sale, no fish farm talk allowed.

As long as you promise not to wear your "Alexandra Morton for Premier" buttons

[chris gadsden]

As long as you promise not to wear your "Alexandra Morton for Premier" buttons

FVSS hat it is then.

[chris gadsden]

Salmon industry to recover pre-ISA levels within 3 years
Chile: The local salmon industry expects to recover its production levels prior to the ISA crisis within the next 2-3 years. Besides, this sector would achieve exports of US$ 3,000 million this year according to the president of SalmonChile, José Ramón Gutiérrez (photo).


Christian Pérez

The president of the Association of the Chilean Salmon Industry (SalmonChile), José Ramón Gutiérrez, expects the local salmon industry to recover the production levels it had prior to the ISA crisis between the years 2013 and 2014.

He also considers that the low salmon price these days is a tragic situation and although he had expected this price decline to happen he never anticipated it was going be so soon.

However, according to the financial journal Diario Financiero, Mr Gutiérrez expects prices to rise in March 2012 due to a revival in the salmon demand.



Publisert: 21.11.11 kl 07:00