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speycaster

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Re: Sharkfin Soup
« Reply #120 on: October 29, 2012, 09:30:50 PM »

Looks like a gelatinous bowl of crap. ;D
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Re: Sharkfin Soup
« Reply #121 on: October 30, 2012, 02:34:24 PM »

Looks like a gelatinous bowl of crap. ;D

If that were true then I guess there should be no reason why sharks are being over fished  ???     
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Re: Sharkfin Soup
« Reply #122 on: November 01, 2012, 06:48:32 PM »

It looks so bad to me that the only people that I think would consume it are those that think the only way that they can get an erection is by eating the penis of a tiger. :o
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Re: Sharkfin Soup
« Reply #123 on: November 01, 2012, 11:19:52 PM »

It looks so bad to me that the only people that I think would consume it are those that think the only way that they can get an erection is by eating the penis of a tiger. :o

Seems like you have small town attitude, if you ever left your town/village you might think otherwise. Also rich people are the ones who are consuming this soup, this luxury is a little bit more expensive than your tomato soup, or chicken corn chowder. And the last time I checked, women (attractive ones) like successful men so i dont see why they will need tiger penises to get an erection? I dont think you end up with 1.3 billion people by not "getting it up". ???


I wonder how many people went to Chinatown for a bowl of Shark Fin soup, the crack heads on E. Hastings must be doing well!  Love how Kerry Jang is trying to gain popularity by saying that he got a "popular" Chinese restaurant to stop serving the soup..
http://www.straight.com/article-822291/vancouver/floata-seafood-restaurant-commits-stop-serving-sharkfin-soup


Without Richmond doesn't look like this soup will be banned. At this point the only cities that will strongly consider banning it are Whistler, Maple Ridge, Hope, Chilliwack, ... oh wait these cities probably never had any restaurants that served the soup anyways, just like North Vancouver and Port Moody lol. Its a pretty big joke how little is accomplished from this... i wonder how many sharks have been saved so far...

http://www.burnabynow.com/Shark+soup+plate/7475034/story.html
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Re: Sharkfin Soup
« Reply #124 on: November 01, 2012, 11:45:50 PM »

Also rich people are the ones who are consuming this soup, this luxury is a little bit more expensive than your tomato soup, or chicken corn chowder.

I never realized it was special.  I had it at little walk-up restaurants in Chinatown when I was a kid.  It was just another soup on the menu and not expensive. 

Ordering a whole duck was special at some restaurants and usually we had to call a day ahead.

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Re: Sharkfin Soup
« Reply #125 on: November 02, 2012, 01:18:23 PM »

I never realized it was special.  I had it at little walk-up restaurants in Chinatown when I was a kid.  It was just another soup on the menu and not expensive. 

Ordering a whole duck was special at some restaurants and usually we had to call a day ahead.



It's probably imitation Shark Fin made from vermecelli. You can even get a bowl of immitation Shark Fin soup at the night market for 4-5 dollars. Or it could be one of those Shark Fin dumpling soups you see at dim sum places.
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Re: Sharkfin Soup
« Reply #126 on: November 04, 2012, 05:19:03 PM »

So Ed ever been to the Congo? If not my small town attitude beats your big city attitude, you should not my friend ASSUME things. I still think that people that eat penis's have a problem, unless it is their own. ;D
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Re: Sharkfin Soup
« Reply #127 on: November 05, 2012, 12:31:09 AM »

So Ed ever been to the Congo? If not my small town attitude beats your big city attitude, you should not my friend ASSUME things. I still think that people that eat penis's have a problem, unless it is their own. ;D

Congo? wow i'm impressed, you must have experienced a lot there! I'm not the ignorant one judging a dish by how it looks when I never tried it. Sounds like you may have issues of your own beyond this Shark Fin discussion, when you are ok with eating "your own" penis. It might be ok in your small town, but in the big city we dont do that. This isn't a fetish forum about penises, so lets keep the focus on Shark Fin!  ::)  over and out!

Meanwhile on the news, Kerry Jang continues to do a great job trying to get popularity for more votes! It's great to be gullable!

http://www.straight.com/article-825976/vancouver/restaurant-owner-calls-coun-kerry-jang-banana-opposing-shark-fin-soup

Kerry Jang is definetely doing a great job for Vancouver! Looks like he prefers attention over actually getting something done!

http://www.openfile.ca/vancouver/blog/curator-blog/update/2011/npa-fire-vision-councillor-kerry-jang
http://archive.citycaucus.com/2009/12/model-behaviour-proves-embarrassing-for-jang
http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/2012/10/10/kerry-jangs-jabs-jeopardize-federal-cash
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Re: Sharkfin Soup
« Reply #128 on: November 05, 2012, 10:10:04 PM »

Ban it now. Cut the fins off and throw the live fish back ?Barbaric
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Re: Sharkfin Soup
« Reply #129 on: November 05, 2012, 10:24:30 PM »

 If you eat the fins of the shark then you should  eat the whole  shark.  But kill it first , or it might bite your ..... Off.   
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Re: Sharkfin Soup
« Reply #130 on: November 06, 2012, 11:34:35 AM »

If you eat the fins of the shark then you should  eat the whole  shark.  But kill it first , or it might bite your ..... Off.   

http://www.visiondive.com/sites/protection/english/poisonous_shark_meat.html

might be a bad idea to eat the sharks... seems like there is a high concentration of mercury or other heavy metals in shark (high in the food chain).
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Re: Sharkfin Soup
« Reply #131 on: December 01, 2012, 05:28:06 PM »

a judge in toronto has thrown out the city's ban on shark fin soup, the city does not have the right to do it said the judge.
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Re: Sharkfin Soup
« Reply #132 on: December 01, 2012, 09:08:00 PM »

Ban it now. Cut the fins off and throw the live fish back ?Barbaric

Let's ban fishing all together. I have seen many female chums being discarded with tummy cut open by some barbaric fishermen who are not Asians, and yes the fish still wriggling with pain and left to die. PETA should tape it and broadcast all over the world and have our salmon fishing banned. Then there will be peace.  :D  I agree finning a shark and let it die slow is cruel. But it is a cruelty plot overplayed for propaganda. Is it more ok for our salmon, even wild steelhead or wild coho to die slowly, wriggling for hours, trapped and suffocating for hours with their gills not being able to breathe and suffer the same slow death? That is also a horrific way of harvest which is cruel. Why is that ok to you guys who point the finger to those subsistence fishermen. Where is the camera for the cruelty done to fish to die this way? Should we ban salmon harvest because of this cruelty to the fish? Why not? Because it will take away the favourite fish of North American and European taste. Yup. I can justify my taste but your taste is all weir and uncivilized and come from cruel unedcuated people. Typical western arrogance to me.
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Re: Sharkfin Soup
« Reply #133 on: December 01, 2012, 09:21:38 PM »



Let's ban fishing all together. I have seen many female chums being discarded with tummy cut open by some barbaric fishermen who are not Asians, and yes the fish still wriggling with pain and left to die. PETA should tape it and broadcast all over the world and have our salmon fishing banned. Then there will be peace.  :D  I agree finning a shark and let it die slow is cruel. But it is a cruelty plot overplayed for propaganda. Is it more ok for our salmon, even wild steelhead or wild coho to die slowly, wriggling for hours in a gill net, trapped and suffocating for hours with their gills not being able to breathe and suffer the same slow death? That is also a horrific way of harvest which is cruel. How about the slow death suffered by being crushed in a net trolled at high speed? Why is that ok to you guys who point the finger to those subsistence fishermen. Where is the camera for the cruelty done to fish to die this way? Should we ban salmon harvest because of this cruelty to the fish? Why not? Because it will take away the favourite fish of North American and European taste. Yup. I can justify my taste but your taste is all weir and uncivilized and come from cruel unedcuated people.  My way is ok and beyond reproach, but your way is barbaric. Isn't there something wrong? Typical western arrogance to me.

The solution is not a total ban, but regulation & quota imposed by shark harvesting countries. Sharks are way more numerous than blue fin tuna or sturgeon. You can see fishing shows or nature shows with lots of sharks. But you never see a blue fin tuna except in the current Wicked Tuna shows.  If shark harvest or sharp fin is banned instead of being regulated, then ban the rest. If not, then why? Dont' be a hypocrite now.
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Re: Sharkfin Soup
« Reply #134 on: December 02, 2012, 02:20:44 PM »

Let's ban fishing all together. I have seen many female chums being discarded with tummy cut open by some barbaric fishermen who are not Asians, and yes the fish still wriggling with pain and left to die. PETA should tape it and broadcast all over the world and have our salmon fishing banned. Then there will be peace.  :D  I agree fining a shark and let it die slow is cruel. But it is a cruelty plot overplayed for propaganda. Is it more ok for our salmon, even wild steelhead or wild coho to die slowly, wriggling for hours in a gill net, trapped and suffocating for hours with their gills not being able to breathe and suffer the same slow death? That is also a horrific way of harvest which is cruel. How about the slow death suffered by being crushed in a net trolled at high speed? Why is that ok to you guys who point the finger to those subsistence fishermen. Where is the camera for the cruelty done to fish to die this way? Should we ban salmon harvest because of this cruelty to the fish? Why not? Because it will take away the favourite fish of North American and European taste. Yup. I can justify my taste but your taste is all weir and uncivilized and come from cruel unedcuated people.  My way is ok and beyond reproach, but your way is barbaric. Isn't there something wrong? Typical western arrogance to me.

The solution is not a total ban, but regulation & quota imposed by shark harvesting countries. Sharks are way more numerous than blue fin tuna or sturgeon. You can see fishing shows or nature shows with lots of sharks. But you never see a blue fin tuna except in the current Wicked Tuna shows.  If shark harvest or sharp fin is banned instead of being regulated, then ban the rest. If not, then why? Dont' be a hypocrite now.

There are a few large differences between killing salmon for roe and fining sharks.
1. Sharks can live up to a 100 years, the salmon are returning to die
2. Most of these salmon are put there though hatchery programs.  One of the largest objections to fining is the unsustainability of it, otherwise it wouldn't now be banned at official banquets in China.
3. There is no comparison to "slit and releasing" a salmon to fining a shark.  The salmon is not going to live a tenth as long as the shark, and chances are any "roe" fishermen that would do such a thing are going to bonk and bleed their fish before taking the roe. If they do release it back into the river instead of taking it home at least the nutrients are being returned to the river, which is the point of a lot of the hatchery programs, like the white spring stockings done to most lower mainland rivers.
4. We also have regulations in place to punish anyone wasting their salmon catch, or being cruel to animals, so if you see someone doing it- report them if you feel it's so hypocritical.  We have laws to deal with this behavior, and that's the biggest objection to fining.  I'm sure if salmon fishing was as barbaric as you describe there would be a group out there trying to stop it.

The point of banning the soup is that there are many unregulated countries fining sharks, and one of the ways to put pressure on them to stop is by banning it's sale and removing the market.  Same thing that was done with rhino horn, elephant tusks, black bear gall bladders etc etc.  I have no problem with someone killing a bear, so long as they use it, not just to harvest an organ for a "delicacy" or some homeopathic form of Viagra.

We're a predatory species at the top of the food chain, if someone wants to kill an animal, I have no objection so long as it's done in a sustainable way in harmony with the environment, that properly uses the animal.  I don't agree with whaling either, but I understand the native historical and cultural significance to hunting them.  I would hope that as society evolves we look at some of these cultural practices and refine our behaviours, and realize we don't need to hunt whales to honor our ancestors, any more than we need to impale someone as a form of capital punishment, or fin sharks to add a chewy crunchy element to soup.

Fining should be banned, but if you want to fish sharks, fill your boots, so long as you at least use the entire animal, and kill it humanely.  It's not the killing of sharks that's the issue, it's killing them in an unsustainable practice, inhumanely that's the problem. Fining is the result of the the low economic value of the rest of the fish.  Unfortunately since some people/countries can't play nice, we have to resort to bans to force change that would not happen otherwise.

It isn't western arrogance or sinophobia, it's an evolved sense of ethics and it's not restricted to western society.
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