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clarki

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Re: What's this?
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2011, 01:28:01 PM »

That was said in jest, Milo.

Sometimes, when I'm feeling a little saucy, I like to use jest, sarcasm, hyperbole, irony..or any other figurative language, without an emoticon. 

Thanks anyways for the mini-lecture, and drawing the dubious link between ethical anglers and and online communication.

Wait, a minute...that was sarcasm.  Here's the emoticon  ::)   
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Re: What's this?
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2011, 02:32:58 PM »

Thanks for clarifying, clarki.

Being the lowest form of wit, sarcasm is sometimes hard to detect when applied liberally online (without emoticons).

« Last Edit: December 14, 2011, 04:42:33 PM by milo »
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clarki

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Re: What's this?
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2011, 10:03:37 PM »

Not to belabour our conversation, but my initial comment was jest, not sarcasm. Unlike sarcasm, jest is one of highest forms of wit, the hardest to accurately discern, and only used to any success by those skilled in the art of figurative speech. (insert appropriate emoticon here)
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Re: What's this?
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2011, 10:08:25 AM »

Not to belabour our conversation, but my initial comment was jest, not sarcasm. Unlike sarcasm, jest is one of highest forms of wit, the hardest to accurately discern, and only used to any success by those skilled in the art of figurative speech. (insert appropriate emoticon here)

Here are the most common and widely accepted definitions of jest and sarcasm:

jest:    A thing said or done for amusement; a joke

sarcasm: The use of irony to mock or convey contempt

You said in the post I questioned the following: " I think Rodney should publish the names of those that got the answer wrong and we should have us a good ol' fashion public shaming."

1. The words convey contempt for those who got the answer wrong and you call for their public humiliation.
2. There are no smileys to indicate jest, therefore, words can and are taken at face value.

Thus, if what you said was meant in jest, you should have given your readers the courtesy of a 'winky' smiley or something int those lines. Absolutely no jest transpires in your post the way it is worded and posted - hence my comment.

« Last Edit: December 15, 2011, 10:25:10 AM by milo »
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Sterling C

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Re: What's this?
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2011, 11:09:12 AM »

Milo, Clarki. Get a life  ::)
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Re: What's this?
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2011, 11:22:46 AM »

Milo, Clarki. Get a life  ::)

Or start a new thread.........   ::) 

(hope I used the right emoticon)
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Re: What's this?
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2011, 11:42:08 AM »

The extent of misidentification is worrisome as the number of individuals on the board who got a very obvious fish ID question wrong is sufficiently large as to undoubtedly include individuals who partook in the Fraser sockeye fishery.  I wonder how many interior coho and Thompson steelhead were killed by this cohort?

As an angler, its your responsibility to ensure you are able to ID fish, particularly if you choose to fish where multiple species are present.
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Re: What's this?
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2011, 12:01:55 PM »

It took me a bit to ID the fish.  It didn't register immediately what it was.  Then again I have never fished for sockeye.










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Re: What's this?
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2011, 12:52:29 PM »

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Out of 309 entries, 159 contest participants (51%) submitted the correct answer. The most common incorrect answer (42% of all entries) is pink salmon, or male pink salmon. While a male pink salmon has a hump back like this fish, pink salmon have large oval spots along their back and across their tail.

I think it's important to look at why people ID'd it wrong.

I'm guessing pink salmon was a high choice because it's been a pink year and the little hump.

I would guess the other 7%  ID'd it as a coho (hooked jaw) or steelhead (red line).

I would like to see more of these contest/polls!  I think they are a pretty effective way to learn.
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milo

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Re: What's this?
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2011, 12:56:27 PM »

Milo, Clarki. Get a life  ::)

LOL! Someone's cranky today...where's those fresh steelhead when you need them?
Cabin fever slowly settling in... :D

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Re: What's this?
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2011, 01:41:23 PM »

I would like to see more of these contest/polls!  I think they are a pretty effective way to learn.
X2  Well done Rod ;)
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Re: What's this?
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2011, 05:48:38 PM »

LOL! Someone's cranky today...where's those fresh steelhead when you need them?
Cabin fever slowly settling in... :D



Need only look to the fish porn thread. LOL
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Re: What's this?
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2011, 06:08:22 PM »

Need only look to the fish porn thread. LOL
you take this too serious. i believe half of respondents  just put something for fun. ;)
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Re: What's this?
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2011, 06:23:59 PM »

I was one who got it wrong, but I have to admit I did not take more than a glance at the photo (it was right before the deadline).  I remembering thinking the fish looked odd (not surprising, since I only fly fish and I have never caught a sockeye), and upon a second look I realize it was the absence of spots that was weird.   I do apologize for not taking a good look it (not like if I was holding the fish and deciding whether or not to bonk it), since it was only an id from a photo for a contest.   I went with pink since Rod was so gung-ho over pinks this year and the shape was right and I wanted to get the guess in before he pulled the plug.  Bottom line is I guess I need to take these contests more seriously... ::)
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Re: What's this?
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2011, 10:01:27 PM »

Glad that I was able to trick so many people. ;D

I'll C&P what I commented on our Facebook page the other day:

"The point of this and future contests is to develop a fun way of this learning process. You get it right, you might win a prize. You get it wrong, you learn the mistakes and do better next time."

You cannot conclude that there is a huge percentage of anglers cannot tell the difference between a pink and sockeye salmon from this contest. While there are definitely many who cannot do so, because they are new anglers who still have lots to learn (we all do!), I think many simply only glanced at the photo and entered it quickly because it's just a small contest, the prize is not that big. ;)

On a more positive note, 130 more people should be able to tell the difference between a pink and a sockeye salmon now that the contest is over. ;D

Cutthroat22 is right, the third most common answer was coho salmon. There were the odd chinook and chum salmon. No one answered steelhead.

Since there were so many entries (I was blown away by 309 entries in one week), we will be doing this hopefully on a monthly basis in 2012. It's a good way for everyone to practice. :)