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milo

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Re: regs question
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2011, 05:58:47 PM »

These discussions never cease to amaze me.  ???

Here we are, in the best place on Earth, with the cheapest fishing licenses in the world, yet some people look to cheap out on a steelhead tag, the proceedings of which are mostly spent on the enhancement of the very activity they are buying a license for.
If it so important to save 25 bucks a year on a hobby they claim to be so passionate about, maybe they should change hobbies and try...I don't know...birdwatching.

Just buy both tags and be done with it.
Gives you peace of mind and helps enhance the fishery.  :)
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Re: regs question
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2011, 06:06:48 PM »

You do not, however, need a steelhead tag if you are not fishing for steelhead, even if they are present in the river, unless it is a Classified Water (ie: Skeena system).

Slippery slope that one, Sandman.
If you fly fish the Squamish for bull trout in late winter, you better have a STEELHEAD tag.

I am sure the same applies to the Vedder. Try to explain a steelhead at the end of your line to a CO:
"Ummm, I was targetting resident rainbows officer, but this stupid fish came out of nowhere."

Not worth it, IMO.
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Re: regs question
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2011, 06:20:35 PM »

Slippery slope that one, Sandman.
If you fly fish the Squamish for bull trout in late winter, you better have a STEELHEAD tag.

I am sure the same applies to the Vedder. Try to explain a steelhead at the end of your line to a CO:
"Ummm, I was targetting resident rainbows officer, but this stupid fish came out of nowhere."

Not worth it, IMO.

Oh, I have a tag, as I target steelhead all the time...I just rarely catch them in winter.  However, if you are nymphing with a 4 or 5 wt, I am quite certain the CO would not try to argue that you were targeting Steelhead, even if one took your nymph.  If they wanted you to have a tag, they just need to change the regs.   Now if you were targeting resident bows in the Vedder with an 8 wt, then you might be in trouble.
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Re: regs question
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2011, 06:20:57 PM »

These discussions never cease to amaze me.  ???

Here we are, in the best place on Earth, with the cheapest fishing licenses in the world, yet some people look to cheap out on a steelhead tag, the proceedings of which are mostly spent on the enhancement of the very activity they are buying a license for.
If it so important to save 25 bucks a year on a hobby they claim to be so passionate about, maybe they should change hobbies and try...I don't know...birdwatching.

Just buy both tags and be done with it.
Gives you peace of mind and helps enhance the fishery.  :)

I'm not trying to cheap out, I just want to be prepared and do things right, thus the question.
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Re: regs question
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2011, 06:23:33 PM »

Slippery slope that one, Sandman.
If you fly fish the Squamish for bull trout in late winter, you better have a STEELHEAD tag.

I am sure the same applies to the Vedder. Try to explain a steelhead at the end of your line to a CO:
"Ummm, I was targetting resident rainbows officer, but this stupid fish came out of nowhere."

Not worth it, IMO.

Not a slippery slope IMO.  If I am not fishing Classified Waters and/or not targeting steelhead I do not need a steelhead stamp (and never buy one). 

Bull trout fishing on the Squamish in late winter does not require a steelhead tag.

I am also a beginner birdwatcher  ;)
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Re: regs question
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2011, 06:26:54 PM »

These discussions never cease to amaze me.  ???

Here we are, in the best place on Earth, with the cheapest fishing licenses in the world, yet some people look to cheap out on a steelhead tag, the proceedings of which are mostly spent on the enhancement of the very activity they are buying a license for.
If it so important to save 25 bucks a year on a hobby they claim to be so passionate about, maybe they should change hobbies and try...I don't know...birdwatching.

Just buy both tags and be done with it.
Gives you peace of mind and helps enhance the fishery.  :)

No one is trying to "cheap out" on the tags.  We were just clarifying the regulations for Steelie-Slayer, who thought the regulations for Classified water applied to all steelhead streams.  I personally have a tag as I target steelhead, but I am not required to have one if I never intend to target them.
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Re: regs question
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2011, 07:43:43 PM »

I'm not trying to cheap out, I just want to be prepared and do things right, thus the question.

I know you weren't, and sorry if you understood my post as directed against you.

Quote from: cutthroat22
Bull trout fishing on the Squamish in late winter does not require a steelhead tag.

Not what I've been told (by a CO), but you may be right.
I still think it's better safe than sorry.
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Re: regs question
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2011, 07:17:33 AM »

These discussions never cease to amaze me.  ???

Here we are, in the best place on Earth, with the cheapest fishing licenses in the world, yet some people look to cheap out on a steelhead tag, the proceedings of which are mostly spent on the enhancement of the very activity they are buying a license for.
If it so important to save 25 bucks a year on a hobby they claim to be so passionate about, maybe they should change hobbies and try...I don't know...birdwatching.

Just buy both tags and be done with it.
Gives you peace of mind and helps enhance the fishery.  :)

Who commented in this thread want to cheap out? I can't seem to see anyone's suggesting that.

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Re: regs question
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2011, 10:36:42 AM »

Who commented in this thread want to cheap out? I can't seem to see anyone's suggesting that.

Not explicitly, Rodney, but implicitly.

When someone says they fish a system with steelhead in it without a steelhead tag only because they are NOT specifically targeting steelhead, I perceive it as being cheap.
I believe that anyone fishing the Vedder year-round should buy a steelhead tag - steelheader or not.

But hey, that's just one man's opinion, so shoot me!  ;)
« Last Edit: December 22, 2011, 10:51:55 AM by milo »
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Re: regs question
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2011, 05:07:33 PM »

When someone says they fish a system with steelhead in it without a steelhead tag only because they are NOT specifically targeting steelhead, I perceive it as being cheap.
I believe that anyone fishing the Vedder year-round should buy a steelhead tag - steelheader or not.

Why should someone fishing for whitefish and trout have to pay for a steelhead tag?  It is hard enough to catch a steelhead when targeting them (at least fly fishing) so the chance of catching a steelhead when not targeting them is pretty small.

By that logic, anyone fishing in BC should have to pay all the surcharges no matter what species they are targeting.  Do you buy a sturgeon tag when fishing the Fraser for Sockeye?
 
I guess you're cheap if you don't.
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Re: regs question
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2011, 10:14:56 PM »

Well, On the bright side today, I got an early xmas present. My mother in law came home from work today and gave me an envelope with my steelhead tag and a tackle shop gift card. Great surprise.
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Re: regs question
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2011, 10:58:05 PM »

Well, On the bright side today, I got an early xmas present. My mother in law came home from work today and gave me an envelope with my steelhead tag and a tackle shop gift card. Great surprise.

I think there is a message in there. Get out of the house. ;D
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Re: regs question
« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2011, 07:02:05 AM »

 ;D
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Re: regs question
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2011, 07:55:22 AM »

Why should someone fishing for whitefish and trout have to pay for a steelhead tag?  It is hard enough to catch a steelhead when targeting them (at least fly fishing) so the chance of catching a steelhead when not targeting them is pretty small.

By that logic, anyone fishing in BC should have to pay all the surcharges no matter what species they are targeting.  Do you buy a sturgeon tag when fishing the Fraser for Sockeye?
 
I guess you're cheap if you don't.

Comparing apples to oranges, eh?
That's OK, have it your way. Life's too short... :D
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Re: regs question
« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2011, 04:21:14 PM »

It should be added there there is no longer a physical "tag" and "stamp" anymore on the licenses, just a section about halfway down the page saying Surchage(s) and listing steelhead (required merely to fish for steelhead) or salmon (required to retain any salmon caught).  Back a few years when licenses were only issued at vendors, they'd give you a physical stamp to affix to your license.
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