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Author Topic: Spey Fisherman Keeps Dead Hatchery Steelhead He Finds?  (Read 26680 times)

alwaysfishn

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Re: Spey Fisherman Keeps Dead Hatchery Steelhead He Finds?
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2012, 09:31:26 PM »
Quote from: bbronswyk2000 on January 08, 2012, 08:49:00 PM
I wouldnt touch it. Legal? How is it legal? Doesnt it say in the regs somewhere that you must catch your fish?

I saw this happen before during pink season this year. I saw the natives bring in a haul. They dumped some dead males out into the river. A fisherman downstream took one out that looked fresh and kept it.

I'm suggesting it's legal because he was using legal gear, he didn't snag the fish, and then he wrote it down on his license and left the river.

If he was stopped by the CO what would the CO give him a ticket for? Picking up a hatchery fish, writing it on his license and taking it home?  ???  :)

Assuming he is going to eat the fish is a big assumption. There is no law that I am aware of that says you must eat the fish when you get it home.

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Re: Spey Fisherman Keeps Dead Hatchery Steelhead He Finds?
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2012, 09:33:36 PM »
^ Exactly!  Find a more noble cause to pile on than a guy marking a dead fish on his license and calling it a day.
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Re: Spey Fisherman Keeps Dead Hatchery Steelhead He Finds?
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2012, 09:40:07 PM »
that is nuts what one will do  ??? ???
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Re: Spey Fisherman Keeps Dead Hatchery Steelhead He Finds?
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2012, 09:51:51 PM »
First I've heard of this. We can only speculate on his motives for keeping that fish. Perhaps he had hooked and release that fish and seeing that it had died decided to keep it. Who knows for sure.
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Re: Spey Fisherman Keeps Dead Hatchery Steelhead He Finds?
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2012, 09:57:37 PM »
Oh I know for sure, it was not a fish he caught. And he did gut it infront of me with intentions of taking it home....
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the carp

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Re: Spey Fisherman Keeps Dead Hatchery Steelhead He Finds?
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2012, 10:21:00 PM »
to me it would be like keeping roadkill, and i think that is illegal
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Re: Spey Fisherman Keeps Dead Hatchery Steelhead He Finds?
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2012, 10:30:34 PM »
Quote from: the carp on January 08, 2012, 10:21:00 PM
to me it would be like keeping roadkill, and i think that is illegal

LOL  ;D   Only thing is the steelhead wasn't found on the road....
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Re: Spey Fisherman Keeps Dead Hatchery Steelhead He Finds?
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2012, 10:53:35 PM »
If you're able to catch a fish with your bare hands and you have a license and the fish is allowed to be retained I think it would be fine to keep it as long as angling regs are followed. Heck I know I'm going to be bored tomorrow so I may just make a phone call and see if it is in fact legal lol.
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Re: Spey Fisherman Keeps Dead Hatchery Steelhead He Finds?
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2012, 10:54:38 PM »
Quote from: the carp on January 08, 2012, 10:21:00 PM
to me it would be like keeping roadkill, and i think that is illegal

Totally legal actually.
If he somehow knew that the fish hadn't been dead long, then why not.
If he watched it float down or something it wouldn't be that bad, I would never do it, but to each their own.
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Re: Spey Fisherman Keeps Dead Hatchery Steelhead He Finds?
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2012, 11:05:46 PM »
so if someone was to intentionally run over an animal he could then take it home? just askin i am not a hunter
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Re: Spey Fisherman Keeps Dead Hatchery Steelhead He Finds?
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2012, 11:10:25 PM »
The way the road kill thing works I believe that you're supposed to report it to a CO and ask for permission to keep the animal.
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Re: Spey Fisherman Keeps Dead Hatchery Steelhead He Finds?
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2012, 11:20:40 PM »
thanks for that, i think i'll just keep to catchin my own fish, just can't see taking a dead fish you don't know anything about, poor ethics i think
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Re: Spey Fisherman Keeps Dead Hatchery Steelhead He Finds?
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2012, 11:30:16 PM »
Technically, that is illegal. As another member posted,
 [Page 9 regs]

ALLOWABLE FISHING METHODS

angle … fish (with or without a rod) with
one fishing line to which only one hook,
one artificial lure OR one artificial fly is
attached

All other methods of taking fish are illegal.

The way I see it, angling "without" a rod is legal, but one must use "one fishing line" with either one hook, artificial lure, or fly to catch fish.

Although 1 hatchery markes steelhead is allowed for retention, legally, the individual would have had to get the dead fish to..."bite" and hook it in the mouth solely by hooking the fish in the mouth using a hook and line. Whether or not a rod was used he would still have to use a line with a hook on the end.

If he really wants to waste his quota on a fish he did not catch...hey go ahead! But to be technical, even though he marked it on his licence with integrity, he still did not catch it legally, and probably was unaware of this.

Maybe he just wanted something to weigh in at fred's for the derby  :D  another reason why derbies are bad - they encourage people to remove nutrients from the river! lol
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Re: Spey Fisherman Keeps Dead Hatchery Steelhead He Finds?
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2012, 11:37:52 PM »
Quote from: Pat AV on January 08, 2012, 09:08:11 PM
Sounds like a typical spey guy, if they are not flossing or snagging you can usually find them messing around with carion. Those guys make me sick, and to top it off they are always with the "hollier than thou" attitude.

LOL! Some definitely have the "holier than thou" attitude but most are cool
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Re: Spey Fisherman Keeps Dead Hatchery Steelhead He Finds?
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2012, 11:42:00 PM »
Quote from: alwaysfishn on January 08, 2012, 09:31:26 PM
If he was stopped by the CO what would the CO give him a ticket for? Picking up a hatchery fish, writing it on his license and taking it home?  ???  :)

hahah if the COs came across them, they would probably laugh and/or pity him and let him go even though it's technically illegal
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