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[Matt]

if your rich you can use the Rio bite tippet 20lb at $1 per foot  this stuff is a knotable wire that is .018 thick

I went to Michaels craft store and found some wire that is very similar in its makeup, not quite as soft as the Rio stuff but i rather it be a bit stiffer. I bought the diameter that was closest to the Rio stuff. I think the craft wire is actually stronger honestly.

the wire MUST have the clear plastic coating or coloured if you so desire but make sure its coated wire. brand name i have is Beadalon if i remember right (cant go look at the moment cause wife is asleep)

I would say .015 - .018 is going to be plenty strong enough especially because its doubled over.

TIP - put the hook onto the wire before tying it on otherwise the hook will ride sideways

I've used knotable braided wire, and I didn't like it much at all.  It kinked badly and then the hook would hand all wonky.  I'm now using 55lbs slickshooter or 30lbs Big Game... basically any 30lbs+ mono, its working much better for me.

[HOOK]

I have tried mono but if you dont get it to sit just perfectly your hook rides flopped to the side. I also have a large bunch of 50 or whatever pound braid which I like using for certain stuff like MOAL leeches for example but on these they will just tangle, I know because i tied one and the hook and tail tangled way more than i cared for. We all have our things we like now dont we, if the wire gets bent and i cant straighten it i will just toss the fly because they are cheap to tie more and these take about 10mins from start to finish.

[Bassonator]

Hook you have any probs with the beads covering part of the hook eye, maybe go a size smaller, awesome tie BTW.

[HOOK]

i use a 1/4" sized bead and i put the bead on in reverse so the big hole faces the eye and i still have 3/4 or more of the hooks eye useable which is more then enough for tying a leader onto. putting the bead on reverse allows for using less thread to get it to stay put and i can tie right up to it without the material going under it and taking away the materials movement slightly. Try it you will like it, the 1/4beads will work just as good on 1/0 hooks but make sure they are straight eyed hooks because upturned eyed salmon hooks usually have looped back eyes which suck for using beads.


the flies posted here are tied on 1/0 mustad salmon hooks (older stainless ones) and then cut off so its just the shank with a trailer hook. you can see that the bead covers a very tiny area of the hook eye but there is lots left to tie onto

[Matt]

I have tried mono but if you dont get it to sit just perfectly your hook rides flopped to the side. I also have a large bunch of 50 or whatever pound braid which I like using for certain stuff like MOAL leeches for example but on these they will just tangle, I know because i tied one and the hook and tail tangled way more than i cared for. We all have our things we like now dont we, if the wire gets bent and i cant straighten it i will just toss the fly because they are cheap to tie more and these take about 10mins from start to finish.

If the monos not stiff enough, use thicker mono like 50lbs Slickshooter from Rio, though 30lbs Big Game is enough whenever I've not had Slickshooter handy.  Burn the tips so that the mono has something to keep it from slipping.  You can use a lighter or boiling water to "tune" the stinger hook to sit in the right spot.  Its important that its vertical, be it up or down- my landing ratio seemed significantly lower when fishing a sideways hook.

[Sandman]

I have experimented with a few options (have not tried wire yet), and I am currently using a heavy mono.  I am tying them point up, but until I have a fish actually bite one I cannot say if it is better than down.

[HOOK]

Matt so far i have braid(60lb fireline), heavy mono(30lb), running line (slickshooter) and wire to use for trailer loop material. I dont like the mono because it to often leaves my hook sitting sideways and i dont want be messing with it to get it to sit the way i want. I use the braided line mostly for Moal's or when i want a more mobile trailer hook because once the braid soaks enough water the hook sometimes will also ride flopped on its side.I do use the running line but not as much because Owner and Gammy hooks have very small eye holes and they can be really tough to change out the hooks, also partly why i try not to use the braided line. I really like the wire if i want the hook to stay its a** put where i want it, I always tie mine so the hook is point up, i even tie alot of my salmon flies upside down so they also ride point up  

like i said already, we all do things differently to the way we like. Our discussion is at least giving other guys good pros and cons about the different things that can be used  

Matt - the wire i buy is basically the same as the Bite tippet by Rio which sells for $1/foot but i get mine for 17cents/foot. I buy the 100foot spools at Michaels and at that price its even cheaper than mono  


HOOK - has about 400 feet of wire, approx 100 feet of running line, approx 100 feet of braided and a full spool of heavy mono. I think im set for trailer material for awhile LOL

[Blackgivesway2blue]

like i said already, we all do things differently to the way we like. Our discussion is at least giving other guys good pros and cons about the different things that can be used     

exactly why i wanted to start this topic. loving the wire idea for trailers, i dont use intruders at all , but i know im gonna have to start tying them up soon , so hearing all this feedback on them helps a bit

[Brook Trout]

Chironomids and Micro Leeches. The things I lose the most.

[Funeral Of Hearts]

Caddis and various river flies for my annual summer trip.

[Britguy]

Just made myself a portable bench as I lost the spare room as a tying room (wife wanted to redecorate and keep it as a spare bedroom)
Time to start testing the bench out down stairs
Chronnies will be my first ties  (Hooks specials)

[HOOK]

ha ha ha i like the name your using buddy  but you forget that i call them Green Timber specials cause that was my test puddle LOL

dont forget to tie some bra strap greens up as well for Lafarge in the spring, was just as good as the other one last year on every trip

[BCfisherman97]

Pornomids  ahaha

[HOOK]

dont you just hate cutting the VHS tape into thin strips for Pornomids  very tedious work

I also hate cutting Atit Static bags into strips for those damned chironies as well

[Blackgivesway2blue]

i hate when you have the strips cut, and the body of the fly almost done, and then it snaps and all unravels and you gotta do it again