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[chris gadsden]

That report is 5 months old and has been thrashed to death on this forum.

I understand this is another fish that had been sent on for testing.

[Dave]

Well, we would all like to hear about it

[Easywater]

because a bright mind is suggesting aquaculture is necessary now and will become imperative to meet the demands of tomorrow's world, we shouldn't at least listen?

Nobody said that aquaculture is not necessary - I think that there is a huge need for it since most of the salmon sold around the world is farmed.

It just has to be run without risk to wild salmon and without consuming 4 times its weight in feed fish.

[aquapaloosa]

Here we go again...anyways how do wild salmon convert?  Likely not nearly as well as a farmed salmon How about 10-1!!!   So what's it going to be.  Farmed salmon that convert efficiently or wild salmon that convert poorly?
Which makes more sense?

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cts=1331683601868&ved=0CDAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpdf.gaalliance.org%2Fpdf%2FGAA-Tom-May10.pdf&ei=3OBfT62IJOrLsQLX68iFCA&usg=AFQjCNGN6e6Nvb6z5MThxqZL5OfLQbzA1g&sig2=Kce8ZRGSQLOofQaZI-uz1Q

[chris gadsden]

Well, we would all like to hear about it

Coming up, 5 more cases of ISA just reported.

[chris gadsden]

From Alex
ISA virus in BC Supermarkets and Vedder River



http://alexandramorton.typepad.com/alexandra_morton/2012/03/isa-virus-in-bc-supermarkets-and-vedder-river.html

[aquapaloosa]

Coming up, 5 more cases of ISA just reported. Cry

X - 1   he he

Typical Morton....reporting on things she knows little about.

[Dave]

From Alex
ISA virus in BC Supermarkets and Vedder River



http://alexandramorton.typepad.com/alexandra_morton/2012/03/isa-virus-in-bc-supermarkets-and-vedder-river.html

What do guys think - would that chum be OK for the smoker

[alwaysfishn]

What do guys think - would that chum be OK for the smoker

Pretty sure ISA is not a joke........ 

[Bassonator]

Once again claims with no back up so we can see for ourselves, but that is to be expected from Ms Morton isnt it. Oooops hang on those pictures of the heads is proof enough for me, sign me up.
Dave, Id smoke it.

[Dave]

Pretty sure ISA is not a joke........ 

By the look of that chum any number of viral or bacterial diseases could be cultured.
Also, have other people found fresh salmon being sold with the gills intact?  Morton doesn’t tell us what tissues she submitted but to do the job right, liver and several portions of kidney should have been sampled.  Again, who has seen fresh salmon fish sold in supermarkets that have not been cleaned?

Until more information is provided, this is indeed a joke.

[aquapaloosa]

It is very unusual to see fish with the gills in.  I have only heard of it once from many years ago where a purchaser from the US insisted on having the gills left in as an indicator of freshness.  But it is a poor practice, for leaving the gills in will shorten the shelf life of the product.  The fish was bled out so this suggests to me that it was harvested with the intention of preservation of some kind. 

  Typical Morton....hand picked seines and hand picked data.

It is post like that last one chris put up from mortons blog that make the rest of the scientific community shake there heads.  Missing blatantly obvious details.

As it has been stated before, this isa in bc is likely something that has been in bc for 25 or more years.  It is an ISA LIKE virus that we know little about.  Morton will ride the fear factor train hard under the ISA label until more information is discovered. 

[alwaysfishn]

Until more information is provided, this is indeed a joke.

Bravo! If you can't disprove it call it a joke.....  and deny it until it is too late.

  Typical Morton....hand picked seines and hand picked data.

Whether the evidence is hand picked or random....  it's still evidence.  As much as you would like to believe this news to be fabricated, it comes from the most credible source available with respect to the ISA virus. Dr Kibenge is the scientist who first discovered the ISA virus in Chile, resulting in the destruction of millions of ISA infected feedlot salmon.

Interesting how the reaction of the feedlot proponents is all the same.....   deny, deny, deny...... and the odd "jokester".   

[alwaysfishn]

The experts in the aquaculture industry suggest that the sign of a fresh fish, is a fish that has the gills intact.

http://www.aquaculture.ca/files/GuidetoCanadianFarmedSalmon.pdf  Page 9

I thought that they removed the gills on all fish in the market, but apparently that is not the case. It appears that Morton went to great lengths to find the freshest Atlantic salmon, so she could have them tested......

Maybe these are just some of the east coast ISA infected salmon that they are dumping on the Vancouver market. Unlikely..... and it still leaves the Vedder ISA infected chum.

[aquapaloosa]

Whether the evidence is hand picked or random....  it's still evidence.

I did not say "evidence" .  I said seines and data.  Evidence in her case is usually the product of her hand picked seines and hand picked data.

Are you mortons twin because you seem to function the same ie:

Riding the isa title train

Inserting terms into quotes such as replacing "data and seines" with evidence.

I thought that they removed the gills on all fish in the market, but apparently that is not the case. It appears that Morton went to great lengths to find the freshest Atlantic salmon, so she could have them tested......

Did she really get a fish from market with the guts in it?  As dave states she would have to have to guts to produce appropriate samples.

Again since you seem to just skim past this fact every time:

As it has been stated before, this isa in bc is likely something that has been in bc for 25 or more years.  It is an ISA LIKE virus that we know little about.  Morton will ride the fear factor train hard under the ISA label until more information is discovered.