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[alwaysfishn]

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to how she pays for all the websites, testing , her personal support, the rather expensive aluminum boat she runs around in, actually she uses a couple of boats, her sons college tuition to become she claims a NASA rocket scientist , satellite internet to Echo Bay, gas, travel expenses etc. etc  on $50,000.00 a year. Oh yeah as she states in an personal email to me she sells her art work ?? Never seen it in any gallery and her books ?? hardly best sellers.  She is however the daughter of an heiress to the Marx Toy Company. She comes from a wealthy family and I doubt she is living that frugally out of sight of the public.

AnnieP, with ramblings like that and nothing to substantiate them you are losing all credibility....   As one of the pro-feedlot boys would say.... "show me the proof".

[alwaysfishn]

http://www.fishtruth.net/Connections.htm A list of US so called charitable foundations. You will find Tides here as well and if you search each foundation you will find lists of their grantees. Morton's foundation, David Suzuki, UBC and SFU amongst others. Enjoy

You would help your credibility if you just posted a link to how much money Morton is personally getting out of this. And counting the boats she operates just shows your lack of understanding of the issue. You need to separate the funds that her foundation gets, from the funds she personally puts into her own bank account.

Morton does not have the deep pockets that the feedlots and government have in order to run their campaigns. She also needs money to do the research she does as apparently no one else is motivated to do it.

As much as you hate to admit it Morton does this for the love of wild salmon, not the money. That puts her up high in my books when it comes to credibility.

[AnnieP]

You would help your credibility if you just posted a link to how much money Morton is personally getting out of this. And counting the boats she operates just shows your lack of understanding of the issue. You need to separate the funds that her foundation gets, from the funds she personally puts into her own bank account.

Morton does not have the deep pockets that the feedlots and government have in order to run their campaigns. She also needs money to do the research she does as apparently no one else is motivated to do it.

As much as you hate to admit it Morton does this for the love of wild salmon, not the money. That puts her up high in my books when it comes to credibility.

Pretty funny and somewhat hypocritical. You laughed at the lack of signatures on my petition but neglect the fact I don't have the high profile Morton has, I don't have a Type-pad blog, I don't have websites and I don't have Facebook. I'm not constantly in the media . Double standard with you huh ? By the way if she loves wild salmon so much instead of making it appear diseased and inedible perhaps she should actually do something constructive like some stream restoration work or salmon enhancement projects instead of just talking about how much she cares about wild salmon. Smearing it to the world via internet isn't exactly promoting wild stocks is it ? How are you such an expert on how much money she actually has and you didn't answer my question from my last post either. I expect you'll answer this question with yet another question too.

[AnnieP]

AnnieP, with ramblings like that and nothing to substantiate them you are losing all credibility....   As one of the pro-feedlot boys would say.... "show me the proof".

The information is readily available on the internet. Most pro salmon farm people have been aware of who she really is for years. As for someone loosing credibility I'd say Morton does that everytime she speaks and makes her unsubstantiated claims. I have no credibility according to you. Show me proof of what she claims as the truth ? You cannot because the OIE lab in PEI and the one in Norway do not confirm her test results as she claims. In fact quite the contrary.

[AnnieP]

AnnieP, with ramblings like that and nothing to substantiate them you are losing all credibility....   As one of the pro-feedlot boys would say.... "show me the proof".

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1998/1012/6208094a_print.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Marx_Hubbard#Personal_life
http://www.marxmuseum.com/ourmailbag/thefactory.html
http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Marx_Louis_30781930.aspx

Just a few of the sites with info about Morton's very wealthy family

[alwaysfishn]

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1998/1012/6208094a_print.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Marx_Hubbard#Personal_life
http://www.marxmuseum.com/ourmailbag/thefactory.html
http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Marx_Louis_30781930.aspx

Just a few of the sites with info about Morton's very wealthy family

I didn't realize that it was so terrible for someone to have a few wealthy relatives....and oppose feedlots.  You have to do better than that AnnieP.   

I understand that the Mainstream owners are personally very wealthy, why doesn't that make them bad people as well? Is everyone who has rich relatives a bad person?

You don't have to answer those questions as we both know how ridiculous they are. They are as insane as suggesting that because Morton has rich relatives, that her quest to save wild salmon is somehow a sham.

You are sounding like a very bitter lady....  Stick to the discussion and maybe we can continue the debate.

[Novabonker]

Sorry don't know the man personally. I just think Morton rakes in enough money through the US foundations and her websites. She asks for donations on every website but refuses to disclose what US tax returns do and what the actual US foundations show on their websites. She gets plenty of money.

Than what gives you the right to insult this gentleman's integrity?

And what have you done for wild salmon other than sanctimonious slagging of people that work toward preservation of the wild runs like Chris?

[AnnieP]

Than what gives you the right to insult this gentleman's integrity?

And what have you done for wild salmon other than sanctimonious slagging of people that work toward preservation of the wild runs like Chris?

How did I slag the gentleman's integrity ? I ask if it wasn't more beneficial for wild salmon to raise the money for enhancement and stream restoration rather than raise it for some anti farm activist to slag fish farming. Slagging fish farms does nothing to help wild stocks. She gets plenty of money from Tides and other foundations to do her dirty work. Remember I was once a commercial salmon fisherman. As for a sanctimonious slagging of Chris I'm sorry I don't follow that asking someone if raising money isn't more beneficial put towards stream enhancement etc rather than giving it to some activist to use to post more false disease reports is slagging the gentleman in any way. You do exaggerate.. According to Morton wild salmon are not fit to eat. If telling the world via the internet that BC salmon is unfit for human consumption because they carry a multitude of endemic diseases is helping wild stocks I am  amazed.

[AnnieP]

I didn't realize that it was so terrible for someone to have a few wealthy relatives....and oppose feedlots.  You have to do better than that AnnieP.   

I understand that the Mainstream owners are personally very wealthy, why doesn't that make them bad people as well? Is everyone who has rich relatives a bad person?

You don't have to answer those questions as we both know how ridiculous they are. They are as insane as suggesting that because Morton has rich relatives, that her quest to save wild salmon is somehow a sham.

You are sounding like a very bitter lady....  Stick to the discussion and maybe we can continue the debate



You are the one who ask for proof she came from a wealthy family. I gave it to you.

[AnnieP]

I didn't realize that it was so terrible for someone to have a few wealthy relatives....and oppose feedlots.  You have to do better than that AnnieP.  

I understand that the Mainstream owners are personally very wealthy, why doesn't that make them bad people as well? Is everyone who has rich relatives a bad person?

You don't have to answer those questions as we both know how ridiculous they are. They are as insane as suggesting that because Morton has rich relatives, that her quest to save wild salmon is somehow a sham.

You are sounding like a very bitter lady....  Stick to the discussion and maybe we can continue the debate.

RT @FairQuestions: Quite a drop: 2011 revenue of Alex Morton's charity ( was $38,054, down from $183,422 ('09) #salmon

Quite a drop: 2011 revenue of Alex Morton's charity ( was $38,054, down from $183,422 ('09) #salmon
It appears your heroine is loosing financial support- Down $145, 368.00  in two years. Could it be people are getting wise to how financially lucrative being an activist is ?

Taken from http://search-logs.com/d/www.cra-arc.gc.ca

 As for me being bitter I think not. Salmon farms are here to stay in spite of activist rhetoric.   I'm sure you know who Vivian Krause is. Her information comes straight from tax returns. And the revenue shown is just for her so called charity. Funny I thought charity was giving money to orphans and the handicapped sorta thing.

[alwaysfishn]

You are the one who ask for proof she came from a wealthy family. I gave it to you.

You misunderstood my question, however I accept responsibility for that as I should have been more specific.

Show me some proof as to how much money Morton takes home. In fact show me proof of how much money her charitable foundation earns.

Once you get some facts I'm sure we'd all be interested in seeing them. Then you will either stop making your ridiculous claims of how wealthy she is becoming, or you'll have some backup for your claims. I have already suggested that she personally earns less than $50,000 per year which I determined after looking at her charities financial statements. From all indications she is not employed by anyone so she isn't making a salary.

To help you out, here is a good place to start... http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/chrts-gvng/lstngs/menu-eng.html

If you think her rich relatives are supporting her, they would likely be doing it through a charity.... http://www.charitynavigator.org/

I would provide you with the research myself, however I don't really have the time nor the interest to do so, as I don't see anything about her lifestyle that would suggest that she is getting rich as a result of her work. Unlike you, I believe Morton is one of those rare individuals that is totally committed to her cause and has no aspirations for riches.

[alwaysfishn]

RT @FairQuestions: Quite a drop: 2011 revenue of Alex Morton's charity ( was $38,054, down from $183,422 ('09) #salmon

Quite a drop: 2011 revenue of Alex Morton's charity ( was $38,054, down from $183,422 ('09) #salmon
It appears your heroine is loosing financial support- Down $145, 368.00  in two years. Could it be people are getting wise to how financially lucrative being an activist is ?

Taken from http://search-logs.com/d/www.cra-arc.gc.ca

 As for me being bitter I think not. Salmon farms are here to stay in spite of activist rhetoric.  I'm sure you know who Vivian Krause is. Her information comes straight from tax returns. And the revenue shown is just for her so called charity. Funny I thought charity was giving money to orphans and the handicapped sorta thing.

Wow, It's amazing how the simple act of looking up some actual numbers can change a person's tune...   Congratulation on the first step towards backing up some of your claims with some actual facts.   

[AnnieP]

You misunderstood my question, however I accept responsibility for that as I should have been more specific.

Show me some proof as to how much money Morton takes home. In fact show me proof of how much money her charitable foundation earns.

Once you get some facts I'm sure we'd all be interested in seeing them. Then you will either stop making your ridiculous claims of how wealthy she is becoming, or you'll have some backup for your claims. I have already suggested that she personally earns less than $50,000 per year which I determined after looking at her charities financial statements. From all indications she is not employed by anyone so she isn't making a salary.

To help you out, here is a good place to start... http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/chrts-gvng/lstngs/menu-eng.html

If you think her rich relatives are supporting her, they would likely be doing it through a charity.... http://www.charitynavigator.org/

I would provide you with the research myself, however I don't really have the time nor the interest to do so, as I don't see anything about her lifestyle that would suggest that she is getting rich as a result of her work. Unlike you, I believe Morton is one of those rare individuals that is totally committed to her cause and has no aspirations for riches.

http://fairquestions.typepad.com/rethink_campaigns/alexandra-morton-non-profit-revenue-2000-2010.html


Unlike you I think the woman is a parasite and has never held a legitimate job in the years she has lived in Canada. She draws her income from pleas for donations and US foundations and Tides Canada.  Rare individual indeed. Why don't you show us some proof of your claims ? By the way Charity claims  by foundations and NGOs are now being scrutinized by the federal government  for abuse thanks to Senator Nicole Eaton and rightfully so as well as President Obama recently embarked on a similar investigation of charitable status abuse in the USA as well.

[AnnieP]

You misunderstood my question, however I accept responsibility for that as I should have been more specific.

Show me some proof as to how much money Morton takes home. In fact show me proof of how much money her charitable foundation earns.

Once you get some facts I'm sure we'd all be interested in seeing them. Then you will either stop making your ridiculous claims of how wealthy she is becoming, or you'll have some backup for your claims. I have already suggested that she personally earns less than $50,000 per year which I determined after looking at her charities financial statements. From all indications she is not employed by anyone so she isn't making a salary.

To help you out, here is a good place to start... http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/chrts-gvng/lstngs/menu-eng.html

If you think her rich relatives are supporting her, they would likely be doing it through a charity.... http://www.charitynavigator.org/

I would provide you with the research myself, however I don't really have the time nor the interest to do so, as I don't see anything about her lifestyle that would suggest that she is getting rich as a result of her work. Unlike you, I believe Morton is one of those rare individuals that is totally committed to her cause and has no aspirations for riches.

7 Questions To Ask Charities Before Donating

Tips For How To Investigate A Charity's Results taken from your posted URL............http://www.charitynavigator.org/....................... Hmmmmmm she doesn't seem to live up to any of these 7 questions. And it is an American site so irrelevant to discussion. As for the other it gives no pertinent information whatsoever so your point is what ?

[alwaysfishn]

http://fairquestions.typepad.com/rethink_campaigns/alexandra-morton-non-profit-revenue-2000-2010.html


Unlike you I think the woman is a parasite and has never held a legitimate job in the years she has lived in Canada. She draws her income from pleas for donations and US foundations and Tides Canada.  Rare individual indeed. Why don't you show us some proof of your claims ? By the way Charity claims  by foundations and NGOs are now being scrutinized by the federal government  for abuse thanks to Senator Nicole Eaton and rightfully so as well as President Obama recently embarked on a similar investigation of charitable status abuse in the USA as well.

Just so you understand the numbers from your link.......  Where did Alexandra Morton's NonProfit get $822,210 (2000-2010)?    .....  That works out to $82,210 per year over that 10 year period which I think we can agree is not a lot to run boats, research and to support herself....

As far as your parasite reference, I'd like to suggest the feedlots are parasites on our oceans, taking from them, putting nothing back other than pollution and diseases, while filling the pockets of Norwegian shareholders with profits....  

That my friend is a parasite!   ........not a lady who could likely have won herself an NDP seat with a salary plus benefits in excess of $100,000 a year, or at the very least could have a cushy government job working as a biologist knowing that after she put in her 30 years she would have a very nice pension.