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Morty

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Invasive Asian Carp - Just what we needed?
« on: August 26, 2012, 09:28:56 PM »

We've all seen the videos, and many of us are aware of the challenge that the US is having getting these invaders out of the Illinois RIver...

Well, it appears they're here now !!

http://bc.ctvnews.ca/invasive-carp-could-threaten-b-c-salmon-1.930255

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Here's what the status in the U.S.

http://discovermagazine.com/2012/mar/09-attack-of-the-flying-invasive-carp
« Last Edit: August 27, 2012, 01:37:57 PM by Morty »
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Re: Invasive Asian Carp - Just what we needed :-(
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2012, 09:34:52 PM »

No, they are not silver carp, but common carp.

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=30986.0

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Re: Invasive Asian Carp - Just what we needed :-(
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2012, 09:47:11 PM »

When I lived near and fished in the Snake river in SE Washington, the carp were frustrating.  They get really big (compared to the smallmouth bass I would fish for) but they were next to impossible to catch.  They were, however, very popular with the bow-fishers.  I don't know if the Fraser ever runs clear enough to make this practical, but in the Snake river they use high platforms on a boat to shoot the fish from above, and slaughter as many as they can.  Not that it ever seems to make a dent in the population.  This was of course in a reservoir - the Snake river at this point is a series of lakes.
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Re: Invasive Asian Carp - Just what we needed :-(
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2012, 05:58:08 AM »

Anyone know where I could get bowfishing equipment around vancouver? I want to try it out.
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Re: Invasive Asian Carp - Just what we needed :-(
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2012, 06:00:42 AM »

Anyone know where I can get bowfishing Equipment around Vancouver? Want to try it out.
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Re: Invasive Asian Carp - Just what we needed :-(
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2012, 06:22:10 AM »

Anyone know where I can get bowfishing Equipment around Vancouver? Want to try it out.
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Re: Invasive Asian Carp - Just what we needed :-(
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2012, 08:32:20 AM »

Nothing worse than irresponsible reporting.

"Asian Carp invasion".

" missing salmon"

" no salmon fishing this season", often heard when Sockeye are closed.


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Re: Invasive Asian Carp - Just what we needed :-(
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2012, 09:14:39 AM »

I don;t know why the media blows everything up... That carp probably got washed there from the flood.
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Re: Invasive Asian Carp - Just what we needed :-(
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2012, 10:12:56 AM »

It's funny the headline is

Invasive carp could threaten B.C. salmon

And the last sentence of the article is

Although the fish may not be the invasive silver carp, its presence so far up the Fraser River remains a concern and potential threat for salmon.


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Morty

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Re: Invasive Asian Carp - Just what we needed?
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2012, 01:38:48 PM »

Thanks Rodney !

I was hoping you'd add some scientific insight to the situation.
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Re: Invasive Asian Carp - Just what we needed?
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2012, 09:08:58 PM »

I don't think this is the same carp as the one in the Mississippi.
Also Carp like slow water and Fraser and tribs are too fast for them to really take over.
That's not to say that I wouldn't shoot the person who put any carp into the Fraser.
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Re: Invasive Asian Carp - Just what we needed?
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2012, 09:14:30 PM »

Common carp have been in bc since sometime in the 1800s. They were brought here by the Europeans who used them as a food source.
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Re: Invasive Asian Carp - Just what we needed?
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2012, 09:19:58 AM »

Maybe the media inaccuracies are whiplash from the snakehead episode earlier this year.  The impact common carp can have on native fish is largely determined by the size of the water they're in.  They're going to go wherever water is, just like any other fish, and if they get into little lakes or ponds via tributaries then I suppose they'll be competing for some of the naturals and eating some eggs and fry, again just like any other fish.  Two years of flooding in Saskatchewan and they've found common carp farther north than ever before so the province has a tv ad urging people to report any invasive species, featuring a pic of a dead common, with no real information, but implying how terrible they are.  The stupid p***ks even spent my tax money producing it.  What keeps carp numbers in check are food fishers and pelicans.  Oh, and floods like we had - the pelicans and foxes and coyotes had a buffet all summer with carp and buffalo fish stranded in the fields.
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Re: Invasive Asian Carp - Just what we needed :-(
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2012, 12:24:19 PM »

Anyone know where I can get bowfishing Equipment around Vancouver? Want to try it out.

Haha, ya buddy!! Stick 'em!!  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Invasive Asian Carp - Just what we needed :-(
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2012, 04:09:52 PM »

Anyone know where I could get bowfishing equipment around vancouver? I want to try it out.

Bormans in New Westminster also has them
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