OK I will make a few points.
Dennis, if there are apparently more spey guys around maybe it is not too much of a stretch to assume that many of these hordes are also new fishers too who might not know the steelhead ropes yet. There is no excuse to low hole or fence post runs although this is a problem with fishers of all types on the Vedder, newbies and older guys who should know better. Maybe you could impart to them a bit of sage advice as to the general etiquette of steelhead fishing and get on with your day. As for spey guys taking a longer time to cover a run, that is part and parcel of swinging flies in low water temps when the fish will not move far, and for all you know that guy could have just had a rare grab and was working back through in an attempt to get that fish to have another go, hence his slow speed. If you don't like it get there earlier or go fish another run.
I have been told off by people fishing behind me on the Vedder that I shouldn't fish hardware because it spooks all the fish. I am sure it probably does spook some of fish into faster water when you are bouncing a Ironhead off the bottom but it also produce some great grabs from aggressive fish. Do you think I am going to stop fishing hardware because I might make it tougher for the next guy? Of course not I was there first and I will bounce fat hardware off the bottom if I dam well feel like it. So what if it making a little more challenging for the next guy, its my prerogative to fish how I like. The world doesn't revolve around floatfishers, even if they own a Milner.
As for moving fish into swifter water the constant barrage of lead from float anglers the Vedder fish see every day has the same or greater effect as hardware, swinging big flies too only with way less grabs. What I don't get is your particular problem with it. If the fish get pushed into the faster water they are still well within range if you are float fishing as Typhoon pointed out, so who cares you can still catch fish? Those spooked fish just aren't available to guys swinging flies in that heavy water. Fly guys and gals fishing for winters on the Vedder have pretty much everything stacked against them so your complaints are pretty hilarious considering all the advantages gear anglers have.
There are many problems with the Vedder. Too many people, lack of respect for each other, the river and the fish and apparently this year not too many fish around. Last time I checked a proliferation of spey rods wasn't that high up the list of Vedder problems. I think threads like this where you just bash another user group without adding anything constructive are a joke and a borderline troll themselves.
Pin-nook - you can't say anything ironic on FWR they just don't get it.
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