One guy i saw today swinging the starvation stick was literally camped out in the tail out of a run i was trying to fish through.In another hole i hiked into,i stared in disbelief as the fly chucker was standing waist deep right in the seam,where the steelies like to hold. And elsewhere the fur and fly flingers were moving so slowly down the runs,it was like waiting for a bus. I realize everyone has a right to fish the river no matter what type of gear they use. But holey crap man, i cant believe what im seeing out there these last few days.Lol