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Every Day

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Re: Tackle Preferences
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2013, 11:32:46 PM »

Fly rod will be ok to use if it was built as a pin rod.
To be effective as a pin rod you will need an extended cork (fighting butt).
I haven't found the guides to make a big difference. The only time the fly rod guides are a pain, that I've found, is when I triple the rod as a spinning rod and am making overhead casts with spoons - sometimes the line will get jammed in the guides.

That reel however, I would agree with Noah. It appears to be a fly reel, and if it is it will not work as a pin reel. I have tried loosening the drag completely on my fly rods to try and cast spoons on a rough day and it just flat out doesn't work. What does work with a fly rod is to strip out a bunch of line and then cast and let the line go, and the stripping action with a spoon drives fish nuts  ;D

Definitely sounds like you have yourself a fly combo, and not a pin combo.
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Re: Tackle Preferences
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2013, 07:34:16 AM »

Thanks guys, info on J Ryall reels is scarce because they've been out of business for awhile but it does have a drag system so the vendor is unintentionaly mis-naming it a pin.  It's still a decent buy (new cond), and would be great for piking or flyfishing for carp (I still don't have a large arbor fly reel), but the largest I have just holds an 8 wt + backing.....  I think I'm going to back out and not buy any fly gear until I see how my shoulder scope goes this summer.
Edit: I guess I was half asleep when I read the ad, he didn't say it was a cp, but he referred to one he'd shipped, but you know, I still like the look of it so I told him if he can get access to paypal and use mail instead of courier I'd buy it anyway.  It's a sickness, I know.
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Re: Tackle Preferences
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2013, 08:54:12 AM »


A centerpin reel has no drag system whereas a fly reel does.



Actually, there are a few centerpins(Ang. Spec, Okuma Sheffield Sirata...)  that have a drag system but personally why would you want a drag system on a CP.  Most of us that use CP's just for the fact that the fight is direct, one to one and that you are more involved whereas a person would depend on the drag system to do most of the work.

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Re: Tackle Preferences
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2013, 10:06:46 AM »

In another month when all this snow has melted I'll try to find a park or schoolyard that isn't flooded and strap the old Diawa 175 moocher onto a 13' carp rod, take the clicker off and see how this yo-yo cast goes.  ;D That reel spins like Taz without the clicker and the drag off.  My flyreel guy is going to the post office to get the J Ryall 8 weighed so I figure by the time I mail him payment, then he mails the reel it's end of May, then surgery maybe a month later and 2 or 3 months recovery and I get to punch out streamers, poppers, and mice for big pike in September or October.  I don't know anyone who's had a shoulder done like this, but if they want me to strap my arm right down for months it could really cramp my style.
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Re: Tackle Preferences
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2013, 11:03:50 AM »

............or you can turn off the anti-reverse and back-reel......set hook with bail already closed.....switch anti reverse back on while fighting fish.....

I use a 7'0 St Croix Tidemaster w/ a 2500 sized Shimano spin reel and this is what I do.

The more people who frown upon you the better, makes it all the more humorous when you are landing fish and they aren't.

I must admit if I was living here in permanently I would buy a CP for float fishing, but there is pretty much no use for them in Australia. I can take this setup and use it in every environment effectively...float fishing, throwing spoons/spinners, bar fishing...everything.
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Re: Tackle Preferences
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2013, 01:36:16 PM »


Actually, there are a few centerpins(Ang. Spec, Okuma Sheffield Sirata...)  that have a drag system but personally why would you want a drag system on a CP.  Most of us that use CP's just for the fact that the fight is direct, one to one and that you are more involved whereas a person would depend on the drag system to do most of the work.

A REAL pin has no drag... I rest my case.
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Re: Tackle Preferences
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2013, 06:17:30 PM »

The more people who frown upon you the better, makes it all the more humorous when you are landing fish and they aren't
I don't really think the anglers on here are snobs, or that they do what they do with their gear as a fashion statement.  When something works for you, you advocate it and I appreciate the advice.  When I started fishing as a tyke in the '50s we used bamboo poles like Huck Finn, with wooden floats and the whole tackle pack was a dollar.  In the early '60s we got fibreglass rods and Johnson spincasters and that was a sea-change in casting.  Prior to that trolling was done with ancient Shakespeare and Phleuger levelwinds.   I have the extruded steel 8' flyrod, (and all his other tackle), that old Jock McGowan used when he was fishing with Grey Owl in the '30s and I'm not scared to use it....  it's our sport and I think we should have all the fun we can with it.
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Re: Tackle Preferences
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2013, 09:16:01 AM »

I don't really think the anglers on here are snobs, or that they do what they do with their gear as a fashion statement.  When something works for you, you advocate it and I appreciate the advice.  When I started fishing as a tyke in the '50s we used bamboo poles like Huck Finn, with wooden floats and the whole tackle pack was a dollar.  In the early '60s we got fibreglass rods and Johnson spincasters and that was a sea-change in casting.  Prior to that trolling was done with ancient Shakespeare and Phleuger levelwinds.   I have the extruded steel 8' flyrod, (and all his other tackle), that old Jock McGowan used when he was fishing with Grey Owl in the '30s and I'm not scared to use it....  it's our sport and I think we should have all the fun we can with it.

No doubt mate, I don't think anyone here is a snob, just the guys at the river who scoff at someone not using the same type of gear as them! I actually find the discussions here quite refreshing, it's great to be able to read local opinions on the different fisheries without all the bs.
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Re: Tackle Preferences
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2013, 08:41:34 PM »

When is for fun doesn't really matter.
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