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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2972 on: March 14, 2018, 07:09:57 PM »

Did you read what wildmanyeah posted just above yours?    I think your'e dreaming if you think the Namgis will win this.
http://marineharvest.ca/about/news-and-media/2018/namgis-first-nation-application/
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2973 on: March 14, 2018, 09:39:46 PM »

Wow,

The First Nations previously accepted thoes smolts for their land base fish farms before from marine harvest.

Something stinks here 
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2975 on: March 15, 2018, 08:55:49 AM »

Wow,

The First Nations previously accepted thoes smolts for their land base fish farms before from marine harvest.

Something stinks here
Yuppers, 23,000 to start with.
http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/namgis-first-nation-opens-land-based-salmon-farm-1.94597
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2977 on: March 15, 2018, 09:06:08 AM »

Yuppers, 23,000 to start with.
http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/namgis-first-nation-opens-land-based-salmon-farm-1.94597
So, these Marine Harvest smolts were fine for the ‘Namgis project at start up but when the Kuterra land based salmon farm couldn’t make a go of it without further outside funding, the same smolts are now diseased and should not go into net pens?  What a crock.
Someone is paying off someone.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2978 on: March 15, 2018, 11:45:34 AM »

It “may” be if Alaska stops salmon farming lol
http://salmonbusiness.com/wild-alaskan-salmon-largely-farmed-report/
You guys get so hung up on Alaska "ranching" - there is no "ranching" of Atlantic salmon.

Here's a description from one of your own rags: http://www.farmfreshsalmon.org/what-is-salmon-ranching

What is Salmon Ranching?

Salmon ranching involves the release of hatchery raised salmon into the wild. Similar to salmon farming, eggs are artificially hatched and grown in a freshwater hatchery.

When ready, the young salmon are moved to saltwater net pens where they are fed food pellets. When these hatchery-raised fish reach a size large enough to allow them to compete with wild fish, they are discharged from their pens and swim freely into the ocean to compete with other fish for food – this is “ranching”.

They remain in the ocean for anywhere from two to five years, depending on what species of salmon they are, at which time they return to the area where they were held in cages during the earlier stage of their lives.

When these ranched salmon return, they are caught by both commercial fishers and sports salmon enthusiasts alike. Ranched salmon may also be referred to as “wild-caught” salmon.


The link I previously posted outlined that the US is going to put significant pressure on the BC government to get rid of salmon farms as the disease and parasites affect all young salmon heading north including those from the US.

When asked if the B.C. government is considering relocating farmed fish operations from the Broughton Archipelago to alternate locations, the department of Forests, Lands, Natural Resource Operations and Rural Development provided a statement saying, “the province is concerned about protecting wild salmon and the migratory routes that they use and is interested in moving to closed containment where feasible.”

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2979 on: March 15, 2018, 11:53:35 AM »

“the province is concerned about protecting wild salmon and the migratory routes that they use and is interested in moving to closed containment where feasible.”

  We all care about wild salmon. My question to you Easywater is where do you think “feasible” is?
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2980 on: March 15, 2018, 11:55:30 AM »

How do you think Washington State is going to put pressure on BC to stop salmon farming? Their own people say what happens in BC is not their concern.
I really think Washington State will simply change their rules to allow farming of Pacifics ... face saving, job saving and vote getting.
But what a mistake that may be.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2981 on: March 15, 2018, 12:13:07 PM »

Alaska Salmon Ranching involves raising salmon in open ocean pens to a certain age then releasing them 

Unlike our hatcheries where wild salmon actually have a higher survival rate then our hatchery's.

In alaska because their raise and feed them to an older age they are able to outcompete wild salmon.  Yes in BC we have a few Coho and Chinook net pens its no where even close to what Alaska has and we certainly are not doing it with pink salmon. '

So at what age does a salmon have to be in a net pen before it turns from ranching to farming????????
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2982 on: March 15, 2018, 04:00:12 PM »

Alaska Salmon Ranching involves raising salmon in open ocean pens to a certain age then releasing them 

Unlike our hatcheries where wild salmon actually have a higher survival rate then our hatchery's.

In alaska because their raise and feed them to an older age they are able to outcompete wild salmon.  Yes in BC we have a few Coho and Chinook net pens its no where even close to what Alaska has and we certainly are not doing it with pink salmon. '

So at what age does a salmon have to be in a net pen before it turns from ranching to farming????????
Aparently there are a couple of Alaska salmon ranching hatcheries that keep pens of their salmon to harvest size and sell fresh. I saw it on youtube or in one of the posts I have done.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2983 on: March 15, 2018, 04:58:03 PM »

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2984 on: March 15, 2018, 06:02:41 PM »

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2018PREM0033-000414
For those who follow this, totally expected ... I hope the people who called for Marty's head will apologize.  Yeah, right.
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