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[absolon]

See Novabonker......  It's ok for the fishermen to kill the lobsters even if they are paying for the privilege to do so, cause there are lots of them!

Hmmm,  seems to be the same philosophy they apply to the wild salmon.

Fixed it for you.

[Novabonker]

You can't twist it or spin it Abs- I'm not talking about the industry in general, but areas where the feedlots are sited. Nice try, but not gonna work.

[absolon]

You can't make the case that lobsters are threatened by fish farms or anything else when each successive year brings a new record harvest of lobsters.

Unless, of course, the harvests are a product of industry pressure in the face of contradictory scientific opinion which would lead to the natural conclusion that the lobsters are being codded. Even if that weren't the case, the harvest is on a trajectory that will eventually land it there. Spiraling industry capacity chases ever-increasing harvests which chase ever-increasing industry capacity, pressure mounts to keep the over-capacity running, stocks start to respond to excessive harvests, competition for the declining numbers gets fiercer and over-harvesting climbs further until the whole thing collapses. It's not like we haven't seen the pattern before and in the same region.

But of course, we all know it's the fish farms fault.

[Novabonker]

You can't make the case that lobsters are threatened by fish farms or anything else when each successive year brings a new record harvest of lobsters.

Read my post - I stated that the area around the feedlots weren't producing. Is it OK to crap on just one section of your lawn if the rest is green?

Unless, of course, the harvests are a product of industry pressure in the face of contradictory scientific opinion which would lead to the natural conclusion that the lobsters are being codded. Even if that weren't the case, the harvest is on a trajectory that will eventually land it there. Spiraling industry capacity chases ever-increasing harvests which chase ever-increasing industry capacity, pressure mounts to keep the over-capacity running, stocks start to respond to excessive harvests, competition for the declining numbers gets fiercer and over-harvesting climbs further until the whole thing collapses. It's not like we haven't seen the pattern before and in the same region.

And who was saying it's all good? The federal government. John Crosby, as I remember was in charge.

But of course, we all know it's the fish farms fault.

Good to see you're coming around

Repaired.

[alwaysfishn]

But of course, we all know it's the fish farms fault.

Good to see you're coming around

....... and I mistakenly thought he was just being sarcastic..

[Fisherbob]

"Justice Bruce Cohen’s report, released in 2012 after years of investigation, clearly said there is no smoking gun when it comes to explaining what is causing Fraser River sockeye populations to vary."
http://www.vancouverobserver.com/opinion/salmon-farmers-association-says-bc-can-have-both-wild-salmon-and-farmed-salmon

[Fisherbob]

Aquaculture development in Canada. Starts on page 40.
http://www.resourcesquarterly.com/issue/2013/Summer/files/mobile/mobile.html#1

[troutbreath]

Fisherbob your last link really says nothing. So why post it?

[Novabonker]

Fisherbob your last link really says nothing. So why post it?

Are you kidding TB - That was his best post ever - it summed up all the pro feedlot arguments that make sense.

[Fisherbob]

Are you kidding TB - That was his best post ever - it summed up all the pro feedlot arguments that make sense.

Glad you liked it NB . Here are three more for you to debunk. Btw I hope for your speedy recovery . And that is no joke
http://www.farmfreshsalmon.org/new-blogs-salmon-facts-are-sacred-alexandra-morton

[Fisherbob]

Anything to make a good show.
http://salmonconfidential.com/2013/05/15/dead-fish-in-the-parking-lot/

[EZ_Rolling]

If we could get the feedlots to provide viable fish for sampling then there would be no issue right.

Ok now go get a viable fish to do independent testing and see how far you get.

[troutbreath]

Why just "farmfreshsalmon" as a superlative. Why not "brimmingwithtastychemicalsfreshsalmon".


just sayin

[Fisherbob]

Did Morton get it right ?
http://www.canada.com/mobile/iphone/story.html?id=8399387

[Dave]

Did Morton get it right ?
http://www.canada.com/mobile/iphone/story.html?id=8399387

Fisherbob, do you have a link to what Morton wrote on May 8?