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[Fisherbob]

I thought it was more interesting than the guano Morton puts out.  

http://www.callandermcdowell.co.uk/relaks612.htm

[gilbey]

I thought it was more interesting than the guano Morton puts out.  

http://www.callandermcdowell.co.uk/relaks612.htm

"Whats guano?"

[absolon]

The secret answer

[alwaysfishn]

The secret answer

Did you forget to log into the forum under your Fisherbob handle?

[absolon]

I only use that one when you are signed in as Novabonker.

[chris gadsden]

Did you forget to log into the forum under your Fisherbob handle?

[Novabonker]

I only use that one when you are signed in as Novabonker.

Go to the HST thread to see our differing views, and then read this piece- peer reviewed, not propaganda from the feedlots.

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/322/5909/1790.3.full

And much more feedlot "Mythbusters" to come. Peer reviewed, not self serving bovine scatology

[alwaysfishn]

Go to the HST thread to see our differing views.....

I'm confident that you'll eventually come around to my views on HST....   

I've noticed that when Absolon disappears from the forum, Fisherbob shows up, and then vice versa.  Is it too much to hope that both of them disappear at the same time?

[Fisherbob]

Sorry TB, or is it NB today? It is all junk science. You should be happy with this news.

http://www.financialpost.com/m/wp/fp-comment/blog.html?b=opinion.financialpost.com/2010/06/17/junk-science-week-this-science-is-fishy

This one will be harder for you to understand but its a good read.

http://m.rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/367/1596/1770.full

[shuswapsteve]

Go to the HST thread to see our differing views, and then read this piece- peer reviewed, not propaganda from the feedlots.

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/322/5909/1790.3.full

And much more feedlot "Mythbusters" to come. Peer reviewed, not self serving bovine scatology

Hey, I am glad you are posting some literature.  Here is some for you also - from the same journal:

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/322/5909/1790b.full

Mathematical models are not taboo per se, but they come with risks because they are dependent on what information you put into them and they are based on certain underlying assumptions.  You still need to look at what is happening outside of the mathematical world - on the spawning grounds.  How are pink salmon doing now?

Here is some more:
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10641260801937131#.UcvXwmprbIU
http://faculty.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/faculty/gdmarty/2010PNAS-Marty-etalSeaLicePaper.pdf

You might want to check out pink salmon escapements on the odd and even year in that area for the last 30 or 40 years and see how they have done over the long term - before and after salmon farming.

Here is one I thought you would like (Ms Morton never references this in her posts.  Why is that?)
http://salmonfarmscience.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/sealice_2011_ices_morton.pdf

Here is another one that I have posted numerous times, but antis do not like it (Read Volume 2: Chapters 4 and 5):
http://www.cohencommission.ca/en/FinalReport/

What did Cohen conclude about sea lice in relation to the decline of Fraser Sockeye?  If you read those Chapters you will find what he said.

For a larger, big picture view try reading some literature from the North Pacific Anadromous Fisheries Commission (Warning: This requires the reader to have an open mind.  Try your best, NB):
http://www.npafc.org/new/pub_technical8.html

[shuswapsteve]

The secret answer

 

[banx]

some good articles gentlemen.....  have there been any studies/papers regarding potential virus mutation? specifically the ones that are present in atlantic stocks.

I've read on here that ISA is present but has no effect on the pacific stocks... so basically has anyone looked into the possibility of it eventually effecting pacific salmon.

I come across this type of info on google. but nothing like a peer reviewed paper.

 "The virus was found in two of 48 juvenile sockeye salmon collected as part of a long-term study of sockeye salmon led by Simon Fraser University professor Rick Routledge. "It is certainly possible that this disease may be benign for Pacific salmon, but I still don't rest easy because it was initially benign for Atlantic salmon and it mutated," he said Tuesday.

[Fisherbob]

some good articles gentlemen.....  have there been any studies/papers regarding potential virus mutation? specifically the ones that are present in atlantic stocks.

I've read on here that ISA is present but has no effect on the pacific stocks... so basically has anyone looked into the possibility of it eventually effecting pacific salmon.

I come across this type of info on google. but nothing like a peer reviewed paper.

 "The virus was found in two of 48 juvenile sockeye salmon collected as part of a long-term study of sockeye salmon led by Simon Fraser University professor Rick Routledge. "It is certainly possible that this disease may be benign for Pacific salmon, but I still don't rest easy because it was initially benign for Atlantic salmon and it mutated," he said Tuesday.

This may help you with the links in it.
http://alaskasalmonranching.wordpress.com/

[Easywater]

This may help you with the links in it.
http://alaskasalmonranching.wordpress.com/

This is such BS.

It's like saying "We searched the suspect's house and didn't find stolen money so therefore he cannot be the thief".

Just because they haven't found ISA so far in testing, it doesn't mean that the original testing was "false positive".

[absolon]

And just because you've never actually seen one doing it doesn't mean that pigs can't fly....