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Sandman

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #375 on: September 04, 2013, 06:56:53 AM »

Anyone? I would like to know what they are fed, where the feed comes from, what chemicals are used. Transparency is what tax paying Canadians want is it not? I am sure the organic farmers would like to know also. Just a fair question. :)

They are, apparently, trying to use feed that is "sustainable" but I have not been able to locate the details as of yet.  However, by raising the fish to maturity faster, they will use 30% less feed than open net pens so that alone is an improvement.  This is the primary difference between the salmon ranching and open net pens that Suzuki is opposed to as growing salmon to maturity requires a lot more feed that growing them to a smaller size (big fish eat more than small fish) so there is less need for the highly concentrated food pellets.  This is one of the few reasons ranching is seen by some to be better than open net pens ( less time in crowded pens means less chance for diseases to grow and spread is another, the down side obviously being that if the disease has already cultured and the penned salmon are released for "ranching", there is a greater likelihood the diseases could spread to wild stocks around the Pacific basin.  While we are all in agreement that the proper management of wild stocks is ideal, there really is no real contradiction when comparing to open net pens.  It is the case of choosing the lesser of two evils.  Neither is good for wild salmon, other than to serve to provide fisherman with alternative salmon to catch and kill so more wild fish can escape to spawn ( the role of hatcheries since their inception). However, there has long been the concern with just culturing fish in hatcheries for "enhancement" that the solution was doing more harm than good.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #376 on: September 04, 2013, 07:43:06 AM »

^^^Bonkers^^^hypocrite that can not answer a simple question and promotes American products :)
 http://youtu.be/XkEt965hZFo

Huh? Oh, I see. I'm supposed to be a trained seal! I'm sorry, but I wasn't up to speed on that. My bad.

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No, I must admit, they didn't include me on that panel and I'm not privy to that information.But, however, I will state I don't promote Norwegian companies with pathetic track and dismal environmental records. ;)  I will give myself 10 purple nurples and a noogie for this horrible transgression , Oh He Who Must Be Answered And Grand Master Of The Known Universe Who Knows All And Sees All.

Anyone? I would like to know what they are fed, where the feed comes from, what chemicals are used. Transparency is what tax paying Canadians want is it not? I am sure the organic farmers would like to know also. Just a fair question. :)
Wow - you call me a hypocrite and THEN spew all that is wrong with the feedlots, after forever telling us that farmed salmon are wonderful.HILARIOUS!

Once a month?
http://www.albany.edu/ihe/salmonstudy/pressrelease.html
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #377 on: September 04, 2013, 09:08:21 AM »

All that study says to me is buy American farmed fish. Nice advertising Bonkers. :)
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #378 on: September 04, 2013, 09:41:58 AM »

All that study says to me is buy American farmed fish. Nice advertising Bonkers. :)

Really? I read that it said NOT to eat farmed salmon more than once a month because of the chemical load. However, you won't have to worry about my educational seminars much longer as I've just been diagnosed with a potentially fatal health issue. I'll have to pass the torch to someone else to debunk your stream.
Carry on.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #380 on: September 10, 2013, 03:47:02 PM »

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #381 on: September 11, 2013, 02:38:00 PM »

Blah, blah blah. Next up for Farmfisherbawb - THE EARTH IS REALLY FLAT!
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« Reply #383 on: September 11, 2013, 08:46:52 PM »

Wrong forum. These folks will welcome you with open arms.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #384 on: September 12, 2013, 10:28:53 AM »

Its good to see you still have your humour NB :).


http://www.fishfarmingxpert.com/index.php?page_id=76&article_id=101172
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #385 on: September 13, 2013, 05:39:25 AM »

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #387 on: September 16, 2013, 02:53:55 PM »

American born Morton should be on top of her own countries fishing and farming practises.

 http://alaskasalmonranching.wordpress.com/
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #388 on: September 16, 2013, 04:10:16 PM »

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« Reply #389 on: September 16, 2013, 06:03:07 PM »

But there is some fish farms that take more environmental responsibility. I'd like to know what feed they use and how the waste is disposed of, but it looks like a good project IMHO. See Farmfisherbawb, I'm not totally anti.

http://globalnews.ca/news/844305/manitoba-farm-makes-name-for-itself-raising-arctic-char/
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