The past denials through communication sites regarding sea lice. The actual TONNAGE of drugs dropped into our ocean as well as a complete ignorance towards the future and the potential consequences of open net farming. The lack of farms to move on recommendations and the amount of effort put forth to 'educate' the public.... and the visual impact of having a farm sitting in one of the most beautiful parts of the world.
I just provided you an example of how the BC fish farming industry is partnering with government and non-governmental organizations with this Fish Health Initiative. Why you continue to remain ignorant to this mystifies me because I directed you to the actual proposed study. The fact is that the BC industry supports the recommendation put forward by Cohen. It is in their best interests to get the ball rolling on this. Ironically, it is the Federal Government and fish farm activists that are involved in either shelving the recommendations or pushing the blame to subordinates below, or coming up with their own version of the recommendations which are not based in fact (i.e. Salmon Confidential).
What truly boggles my mind, is that someone who appears to be as intelligent as you can support such a....... crime.
I support defensible science and factual information. I like to look at the whole issue instead of being fixated on just one aspect. I support those that actually know what they are talking about with regards to Pacific Salmon biology or fish pathology rather than those (i.e. Morton) that know little about both and actually mislead the public in the process. I also support those that question the theories and opinions presented by anti fish farm activists instead of taking what they say at face value. If the cause of activists is so right and just then there should be no need for false claims and misinformation; however, that is exactly what we are getting. Sorry, I do not subscribe to fear mongering and the “ends justify the means” mentality of many anti-fish farm activists. If being intelligent is to throw out critical thinking, exaggerate, make false claims and be afraid to question so-called “Warriors of Wild Salmon” then I agree I have a different mind set than you do on this. What is a “crime” is to be afraid to not just question industry or government, but to not question critics of fish farming in BC out of fear of being labelled as corrupted or not loving wild salmon. If the theories presented by critics are so solid then they should have no problem defending them. More often than not, people that oppose fish farming in BC follow others –like sheep off a cliff – instead of looking at the whole issue. Furthermore, I suggest that many of these activists that claim to love wild salmon know very little about them. In my opinion, this is the type of issue where one should at least show some interest in things like Fraser Sockeye if they are going to hold them so dear to their heart. For instance, there was this one fellow on this other forum that claimed that the big return of 2010 Adams River Sockeye was because those returning Adams Sockeye adults migrated back through the Strait of Juan de Fuca and therefore missed all the salmon farms between Vancouver Island and the mainland. However, that is totally false and the information to disprove this myth is actually not hard to find if one goes to the Pacific Salmon Commission website. The fact is that at the end of August 2010, approximately 94% of the Late Run Sockeye (which includes Late South Thompson Sockeye like the Adams) diverted through Johnstone Strait.
Additionally, some activists believe that a dead fish is supposed to retain its red gills as it decomposes. If the gills are white then it is suspicious. Of course, there is no mention that migrating adult salmon that enter freshwater undergo putrefaction and cell autolysis and that this is accelerated once the fish is dead and is exposed to nature’s elements. No, instead let’s jump right to something suspicious with no evidence and blame salmon farms. Yeah, that takes intelligence. The other myth being peddled by activists are that Harrison Sockeye do not die before spawning. Similar to understanding fish farming practices in BC, if people are going to take up the cause of wild salmon then they should take the time to learn something about them or at least concede when they do not and perhaps learn something in the process.
I support the responsible work being done right now that is currently addressing some of these issues, but is not getting mentioned in the media. Unlike fish farm activists and the Federal Conservative cabinet, I support the recommendations in the Cohen Report. I believe it is a “crime” to put most of your faith in perceptions and masquerading them as facts.
if you really were as informed as you claim to be, you would know that the "need for more protein for the human population" is a farce. That a redistribution of wealth, rather, a reduction in how much food we waste would be better for the human population than putting more of these pens in pristine oceans.
If you were as informed as you claim to be you would realize that aquaculture globally is increasing each year and is not going away. Don’t take my word for it – check out information from the FAO. So, you can preach the redistribution theory till you turn blue in the face. What is not a bottomless pit has been our desire to repeatedly pillage our “pristine” oceans of wild fish species in mixed stock fisheries where weaker stocks are frequently captured with stronger ones. Really…pristine?? Of course the only impacts to our oceans are those nasty fish farms. Those primary sewage systems that pump directly into the ocean are just useful fertilizer. Yeah, humans have kept the oceans pristine before aquaculture began. Give me a break…lol. By now you must have come across the work of Randall Peterman in the report. What does he have to say? Do you believe he has some valuable information that adds to our greater understanding of the issue?
edit: I did read volume 2. Isa is found in pacific salmon. and if ISA gets atlantics sick, errrr actually it kills them. wouldn't you want to remove your investment from that environment? thats what a smart person would do.
To clarify, Pacific Salmon were experimentally infected with ISAv but were found to be largely resistant to developing the disease (ISA). In Volume 2, Dr. Kibenge stated that Pacific Salmon are not known to develop ISA (Vol. 2, Chapter 4, pg. 61). As you have found out already there is no amount of manufacturing you can do to create an epidemic of ISA here. As you have found out already in the Cohen Report, the findings were clear about what was found and what was not.
In regards to Dr. Molly Kibenge’s findings of ISAv you forgot to mention her husband’s opinion of the samples from Cultus Lake as well as the 20 blinds samples (10 positive and 10 negative in Molly Kibenge’s samples) sent to be tested at his lab at the Atlantic Veterinary College. Dr. Fred Kibenge was able to confirm that 6 of the samples were positive, but 3 of these were in Dr. Molly Kibenge’s negative samples and 3 were in her positive samples. Following that, the collective decision was to send the samples to the Moncton lab for re-testing using the same primers and kits that Dr. Molly Kibenge used. These additional tests were unable to find positive results. Further testing was done after that using the validated real-time PCR test as well as the Snow segment 8 primers. These additional tests were unable to find positive results (Cohen Final Report; Vol. 1.; Chapter 9; page 458).
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