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Fisherbob

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #630 on: January 10, 2014, 09:31:16 AM »

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #631 on: January 10, 2014, 02:17:31 PM »

Looking bad :o

Marine Harvest's operations have been severely affected in the south of Chile, where millions of fish have died by the disease infectious salmon anemia.[80][81] The rapid propagation of the virus has motivated the enterprise to sell some of its facilities, firing more than a thousand employees,[80] with the aim of translating its installations further south to the Aisén Region. Parasitic, viral and fungal infections are all disseminated when the fish are stressed and the centres are too close together, and a spokesman for Marine Harvest recognized that his company was using too many antibiotics in Chile and that fish pens were too close, contributing to the dissemination of the ISA virus.[82] Norwegian scientist Are Nylund has suggested that Marine Harvest introduced the ISA virus to the region by importing infected eggs from Norway.[83]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Harvest

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #632 on: January 10, 2014, 07:46:05 PM »

Old news TB. Unlike Doc Morton and Don, it looks like they have learned from mistakes. :)
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #633 on: January 10, 2014, 09:09:26 PM »

Read the drivel from your link and see information contains nothing about the amount of antibiotics they used in Chile, in the graphs timeline. Something smells of farmed salmon underfoot.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #634 on: January 10, 2014, 09:15:06 PM »

This is Chile:
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/images/time/america/chile.jpg

This is Canada:
http://www.mapsofworld.com/canada/maps/canada-map.gif

This is British Columbia:
http://www.hamiltonstampclub.com/images/british-columbia-map.gif

This is a map showing Marine Harvest CANADA farm sites off the coast of BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA (note: This area does not look like Chile...It is not an illusion.).
http://www.salmonfarmers.org/sites/default/files/all_companies_2007-12_out_migration_sites.pdf

Salmon Virus Indicts CHILE'S Fishing Methods (note: The year of this news article is 2008....oh yeah...It doesn't talk about Marine Harvest in BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA, eh)

Marine Harvest recognized that his company was using too many antibiotics in Chile and that fish pens were too close, contributing to the dissemination of the ISA virus.[82] (again...CHILE not BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/world/americas/27salmon.html?fta=y&_r=0

Trends in antimicrobial use in Marine Harvest Canada farmed salmon production in British Columbia (2003-2011) (note: The year of this study is 2013 and is about Marine Harvest CANADA sites in BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA.)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24293677

TB, while you are at it you might want to compare the regulatory environments between CHILE and CANADA, so that you are comparing apples to apples. Wikipedia does not always tell the whole story for some reason.

Looking bad for you, TB  :P
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #635 on: January 11, 2014, 04:01:48 PM »

 ;D  Another beauty!
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #636 on: January 11, 2014, 05:31:00 PM »

I know you don't mind Marine Scarvest likes to polute in other countries. So your looking bad. ;)
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #637 on: January 12, 2014, 07:39:14 AM »

So in conclusion, although Marine Harvest has messed up the coastal operations in Chile big time, they pinkie swear they won't do it here. Really? All I hear from  the feedlotters is....




Oooops - sorry. The seals have all been shot by the feedlotters....
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Fisherbob

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #638 on: January 12, 2014, 09:46:16 AM »

It appears your thoughts have been looked at for years and the industry has been moving forward to limit deaths.

http://www.campbellrivermirror.com/news/130225473.html?mobile=true
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #639 on: January 12, 2014, 10:23:04 AM »

It appears your thoughts have been looked at for years and the industry has been moving forward to limit deaths.

http://www.campbellrivermirror.com/news/130225473.html?mobile=true

At the feedlots or from consumption of their products? "Limiting deaths"? How about making this the NUMBER 1 PRORITY? LOOKED AT FOR YEARS? IT'S TAKING THEM YEARS TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO SAVE THE LIVES OF THEIR WORKERS? Is that the kind of corporate entities any reasonable human would want doing business in our province, let alone sitting on and being stewards of, in their own words "pristine" tracts of our coast? I think you blew a tire with that ridiculous post Bawb.


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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #640 on: January 12, 2014, 10:24:04 AM »

Actually, seal and sea lion populations in bc are on the rise and have been doing so for some time.  Interestingly the populations in alaska have been on a sharp decline at the same time. So to say that salmon farmers shot them all is clearly false because currently the numbers are higher than what they have been for some time.

Sea lions are no longer able to rip holes in nets due to regulation.  Nets are required to meet a strength standard that goes beyond the abilities of sea lions.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #641 on: January 12, 2014, 11:39:23 AM »

"This pamphlet provides the most recent scientific information on the status of seals and sea lions in B.C. It describes the general biology, trends in abundance and feeding habits of species that occur on the B.C. coast. The conflicts that arise with commercial and sport fisheries are also discussed."

http://www.racerocks.com/racerock/rreo/rreoref/mmammals/sealsandsealions.htm

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #642 on: January 12, 2014, 02:37:44 PM »

So in conclusion, although Marine Harvest has messed up the coastal operations in Chile big time, they pinkie swear they won't do it here.

And that has little or nothing to do with CANADA (other than give you yet another anti Chilean tilt)

Here NB, let me help you a bit, so you know the country.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada

Burn
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #643 on: January 12, 2014, 03:22:00 PM »

I know you don't mind Marine Scarvest likes to polute in other countries. So your looking bad. ;)

No, I just wanted to help you out with geography.  Tough times in the fish farm fear mongering camp these days, huh?  Not easy when the mothership (Ms Morton) has abandoned you here, so no doubt you are a little bitter.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #644 on: January 12, 2014, 04:26:58 PM »

And that has little or nothing to do with CANADA (other than give you yet another anti Chilean tilt)

Here NB, let me help you a bit, so you know the country.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada

Burn
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Try READING what I wrote there Sidestep and not twisting what I said about Canadian influence on American policy. When you can comprehend it states if they pull crap like that elsewhere- then they don't belong here. I didn't stutter when I said that. But again, avoid the blood of the workers that's on their corporate hands. Nice sidestep/ poor attempt at diversion. Stevie, but try READING AND COMPREHENSION.

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