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[banx]

Bob that link you posted just talks about the difference between 'ranching' in alaska, and 'farming' here..... though based on the several propaganda sites I visited to research ranching... most of what we do here could be classified as ranching as well.  releasing smolts into the wild with the hope of them returning to be caught.  which is from your positiveaquaharvestingalliance.com

What I did find wrong, as a matter of opinion of course, is that the authors try to say that ranching is better than farming.  It does use less feed per ton. But there are far more negatives associated with farms compared to ranching.  The largest being the effect on the environment.

If these 'ranched' fish come back to their natal streams and are not caught/harvested then they are a + on the environment.  They will contribute to the ecosystem via their death.  farmed salmon will never be a + on the environment and will only benefit the company who owns them.

now back to the original question.... as you posted earlier saying the sportfishing on the island is amazing, were you catching a lot of pinks in the 70's 80's and 90's? and if not, why do you think your catching more now?

you don't need to quote anyone Bob, I accept your opinion regardless of your feelings.

[Every Day]

I would think that salmon repopulating rivers after ice ages would suggest that not all salmon return to their native river. Dave or Steve?

Found this one
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/science/publications/uww-msm/articles/pacificsalmon-saumonpacifique-eng.htm

I was helping tag coho last year on the island....

A number of the coho I tagged in the Englishman (quite a ways up too ~15-20 km), ended up in rivers like the Chase or Millstone. We were also catching a tonne of hatchery fish, which were most likely Little Q or Big Q strays.

In short, the fish don't need to be native to the river to go up it. They will simply join a school and head up the river. Some may go down like the ones I tagged that ended up 50+ km away, but I'm sure closer to spawning a bunch stay.

Another food for thought.... if you go look at a lot of rivers with "record returns," I'd say at the mouth of each river there is a slough of 100,000 pinks sitting there, not really doing anything other than colouring up. I'd say you can't use the low water excuse (personally), just because in those same rivers, fresh coho are shooting past the pinks right up into the system (plus a number of the pinks are already in as well). Maybe the pinks are just lost and can't bounce around any more due to their condition, so they'll just spawn in the estuaries.

Can\t wait to see what happens with coho fishing this year.. I have a feeling it'll be a treat 

[Novabonker]

http://www.biv.com/article/2012/8/recalculating-the-costs-and-consequences-of-fish-f/

[Novabonker]

Bawb? Is this you?

http://www.watershedsentinel.ca/content/enbridges-pr-firm-hill-and-knowlton-minister-environment-connection

[Novabonker]

http://communications.uvic.ca/releases/release.php?display=release&id=1176

[Novabonker]

http://www.salmonguy.org/?tag=salmon-farming

[Fisherbob]

http://fairquestions.typepad.com/rethink_campaigns/2011/05/wild-vs-farmed-a-false-choice.html

[Novabonker]

http://health.clevelandclinic.org/2014/03/fish-faceoff-wild-salmon-vs-farmed-salmon/

[Fisherbob]

Geuss that even blows the grow on land thinking out of the water Nova. Why would they not compare a farmed atlantic to a wild atlantic? Beef,,,Buffalo, whats the differance kind thinking. You of all people should be able to read that as poopaganda science Nova LOL. Just buy American.
http://fairquestions.typepad.com/rethink_campaigns/2011/05/wild-vs-farmed-a-false-choice.html

Btw, do we realy know what is in "Wild" fish feed?
http://blogfishx.blogspot.ca/2007/05/wild-salmon-fed-melamine-contaminated.html?m=1

But on the bright side in Washington.
http://www.thefishsite.com/fishnews/4321/fda-clears-fish-of-melamine-in-washington-state

[Fisherbob]

Debunking Doc Morton.
http://salmonfarmscience.com/2014/09/16/whats-better-than-debunking-morton-myths-seeing-a-real-salmon-scientist-get-international-recognition/

[Novabonker]

Debunking Doc Morton.
http://salmonfarmscience.com/2014/09/16/whats-better-than-debunking-morton-myths-seeing-a-real-salmon-scientist-get-international-recognition/

There ya go again with self aggrandizing propaganda put forth by your feedlot lords. salmonfarmnonsenseandbaloney.com

[Fisherbob]

There ya go again with self aggrandizing propaganda put forth by your feedlot lords. salmonfarmnonsenseandbaloney.com

You can debunk them simply by telling me what Doc Morton has got right during her anti fish farm crusade Nova. not going to hold my breath for that reply hehe.

[Fisherbob]

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/fraser-river-sockeye-salmon-run-size-uncertain-but-great/article20635137/?service=mobile

[Novabonker]

You can debunk them simply by telling me what Doc Morton has got right during her anti fish farm crusade Nova. not going to hold my breath for that reply hehe.

You seem to have an unhealthy obsession and a weird fascination with Ms. Morton. Really unhealthy and really weird.

You see Bawb, I've posted links from many other sources,  so you wouldn't have that popgun to fire. Note there's university studies, doctor's reports, even prominent business publications - they've all clued in to the feedlot flim-flam backed by the chorus of sycophants. Like the constant self serving salmonfarmnonsense.com or the other glut of propaganda put forth by your masters. And since I've brought up your masters, please point out another jurisdiction where these floating fester pots have an unblemished record- Norway? Scotland? Surely the South America\n operations have a resounding ecological and safety record? No, you say?  They're the same buffoons operating here, donating large sums of money to the political flavour of the day to curry favour.


http://www.coibc.ca/down/opinion_hagen_2003.pdf

http://thetyee.ca/News/2005/05/12/FishFarmDocumentsShowPoliticsTrumpScience/

[Fisherbob]

That was a lot of talk from some one that seems to not be able to tell the differance between Atlantic and Pacific Salmon.

http://www.thesalmons.org/lynn/fishes.html