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Fisherbob

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1110 on: October 21, 2014, 07:21:45 AM »

I might suggest you think before you post a lie Bawb. Show me where I've ever defended American practices. Did you know that posting lies on the internet is an actionable offense? Get your facts straight.
Read the post again Nova and get your facts straight before getting all worked up and your curly's in a knot over a simple debate.
    The way you "seem" to be defending American bad tactics.:)
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1111 on: October 21, 2014, 03:38:31 PM »

The simple solution is don't tell lies Bob. You can feel free to assault my posts, but assaulting my character by inference or outright lies is out of bounds and I have that from a friend that teaches law at UBC, with an area of expertise in internet law.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1112 on: October 21, 2014, 08:17:59 PM »

The simple solution is don't tell lies Bob. You can feel free to assault my posts, but assaulting my character by inference or outright lies is out of bounds and I have that from a friend that teaches law at UBC, with an area of expertise in internet law.
Could be a very good friend of mine also. May I suggest you get our possible friend to read and and tell you what my post says or perhaps give you a reading lesson or two before you get your curly's in a knot. It seems that the black board is not working for you, or are you just off on one your tangents crying wolf again? :)
  Btw thank you for finally being able to spell my name right. It realy only takes three letters. :)
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1113 on: October 22, 2014, 06:23:18 AM »

Don't spreads lies,innuendo, inferences or rumours about me or I promise you won't like the results. I've spoken to my friend and will be seeing him tonight. He's already reiterated exactly what I've related to you. Take it any way you want. As a sign on the Vedder says- YOU'RE WARNED.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1114 on: October 22, 2014, 08:35:12 AM »

Don't spreads lies,innuendo, inferences or rumours about me or I promise you won't like the results. I've spoken to my friend and will be seeing him tonight. He's already reiterated exactly what I've related to you. Take it any way you want. As a sign on the Vedder says- YOU'RE WARNED.
Touchy are we today. You will get over it.
   Also please do not send any more threat messages. :)
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1115 on: October 22, 2014, 08:53:29 AM »

That wasn't a threat. There you go again with another fabrication. I pointed out legal cases which you could use for guidance and telling you to stop with the misinformation or I would proceed with legal remedies. There was no threat involved. I don't take kindly to character assaults. Feel free to post the"threat".
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1116 on: October 22, 2014, 01:04:09 PM »

Wow, talk about being chicken s&@& and childish.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1117 on: October 23, 2014, 01:20:17 PM »

There are times Nova, that it is best to taste our own cooking before serving it out to other people as what it appears I have done in the past. It seems to me that you are unwilling to do that. That being said, may I suggest you have a Snicker's, you do not seem to be yourself lately. :)
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1118 on: October 23, 2014, 11:16:23 PM »

The Salish Sea Marine Survival Project leverages human and financial resources from the United States and Canada to determine the primary factors affecting the survival of juvenile salmon and steelhead in the Salish Sea. It is the largest and most important research of its kind in the shared waters of British Columbia and Washington State, addressing a key uncertainty impeding salmon recovery and sustainable fisheries. The project will, for the first time, undertake a comprehensive study of the physical, chemical and biological factors impacting salmon survival, in order to improve our collective understanding of salmon in saltwater, facilitating smarter management and stronger returns.

http://marinesurvivalproject.com/

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1119 on: October 26, 2014, 01:52:58 PM »

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1120 on: October 28, 2014, 08:15:03 AM »

some anti-farm propaganda.... time to buy some shares in marine harvest I suppose.  Diversify my portfolio.  ;)

  http://www.conservationcouncil.ca/new-federal-government-regulation-proposes-to-kill-wild-fish-to-protect-fish-farms/
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1121 on: October 28, 2014, 08:30:23 AM »

An interesting vid on wild and farmed salmon at the bottom of the page. :)

http://bcdairy.ca/bcatthetable/
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1122 on: October 28, 2014, 03:41:06 PM »

Some really good stuff on here:

http://www.vitalchoice.com/shop/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=279

"A considerable body of research shows that salmon farms can harm wild salmon by acting as concentrated sources of disease and sea lice that spread to wild salmon migrating past the aquaculture pens.

Atlantic salmon were brought to the edge of extinction by contamination from salmon farms in Norway, Ireland, and Scotland, and remain scarce in the wild. Chilean salmon farms have been plagued by ongoing problems with disease. "
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1123 on: October 28, 2014, 05:01:34 PM »

The key word is "can" TB, not "is". :) Atlantics were brought to near extinction well before farming started. That was from over fishing and poor land use. The big question to ask, why did salmon farming start if the commercial fishery is supposedly sustainable? For the history of Atlantics in the Pacific.
http://www.salmonfarmers.org/sites/default/files/research-resources/timeline_atlantics.pdf
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1124 on: October 28, 2014, 06:21:39 PM »

I believe the key word is them not saying "can't" harm wild stocks. So words like can or could show a likelihood of affecting wild fish stocks. Surely you can follow the train of thought there...can, could as opposed to can't, wouldn't.

Anyway on the upside:

http://www.undercurrentnews.com/2014/10/27/land-based-farmed-salmon-gets-monterey-bay-aquarium-green-rating/

"All other farmed salmon, from Norway, Scotland, Canada or Chile, is rated as “avoid” by the Monterey Bay Aquarium."

Fair comment and precise wording "avoid".

http://www.undercurrentnews.com/2014/09/24/for-us-seafood-entrepreneur-betting-on-us-inland-farmed-salmon/

Just a matter of time before the old dirty fish style is a thing of the past. :D
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