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Easywater

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1666 on: November 17, 2015, 11:51:55 AM »

I could see the new Federal government banning fish farms in BC completely.

Why take risks with an existing salmon population when there are other places in the world where farmed fish could be raised without any risks.
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Fisherbob

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1667 on: November 17, 2015, 01:50:59 PM »

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/technology/pacific-salmon-not-affected-by-lice-study-1.897519
Studies have been going on for years.
  I wonder if Alaska does sea lice studies on their yearly 1.5 billion salmon they dump in the Pacific that our wild salmon have to compete with.
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chris gadsden

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« Reply #1668 on: November 17, 2015, 03:09:30 PM »

I could see the new Federal government banning fish farms in BC completely.

Why take risks with an existing salmon population when there are other places in the world where farmed fish could be raised without any risks.
Good to see others mentioning this. ;D

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1670 on: November 17, 2015, 05:54:51 PM »

I could see the new Federal government banning fish farms in BC completely.
Right ::) Don't hold your breath ... too many jobs involved and zero science to ban them.
But I think your post was sarcastic, no? ;)
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Dave

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1671 on: November 17, 2015, 06:24:25 PM »

http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1471-2164-15-200.pdf

Great post Bob!  I especially liked this ...

"The present work shows that when co-habited and subjected
to identical copepodid exposures, chum salmon
become infected with higher densities (lice per host
weight (g)) of salmon lice Lepeophtheirus salmonis than
do Atlantic or pink salmon. The higher infection density
on chum compared to pink salmon was previously identified
[22] and the inclusion of Atlantic salmon here provides
more information on the susceptibility spectrum of
Pacific and Atlantic salmon. We conclude that juvenile
pink salmon are resistant whereas juvenile Atlantic and
particularly chum salmon are susceptible."

Kinda downplays Almo's theory of pink salmon extirpation from sea lice and shows there are many more factors involved in salmonid population fluctuations, salmon farming being at the bottom of that list.
So, will Almo now start blaming low chum numbers (are they low?) on sea lice?  Stay tuned, she has a few years left to stir the pot and request your money ;)
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chris gadsden

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1672 on: November 17, 2015, 06:36:31 PM »

Dave, bottom of the list? Mmany will dispute you on that. Beak you are. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1673 on: November 17, 2015, 06:47:57 PM »

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« Reply #1674 on: November 17, 2015, 06:56:31 PM »

Dave, bottom of the list? Mmany will dispute you on that. Beak you are. ;D ;D ;D
Well, you, Almo, Eddy, perhaps troutbreath. So let's find out... Who else here on this site thinks salmon farming is a major factor in declining salmonid populations and if so, why?

Remember all the other issues ... habitat degradation, urban encroachment, climate change, over fishing by all user groups, pollution, warming and acidification of the Pacific, salmon ranching blah, blah ;D


 Thanks for telling us what's happening in Norway Chris.  Means jack squat to salmon farming in BC though.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1675 on: November 18, 2015, 12:44:46 AM »

There are many factors affecting our wild salmon stocks ,responsible farming practices is one factor we could control!
 And really what are the benefits to BC of this mostly exported product.

Good insight into the Norway situation,kind of serves as a model of what could happen here if we let irresponsible farming practices run amuck unchecked !
 Glad to see we have people bringing these issues up .
 Great Info !
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1676 on: November 18, 2015, 08:29:54 AM »

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1677 on: November 18, 2015, 10:33:33 AM »

Why exporting is important?  I am sure there is an economist on here that can explain it better. 


http://www.international.gc.ca/media/comm/news-communiques/2013/12/23b.aspx?lang=eng


http://www.aquaculture.ca/files/economic-benefits.php

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #1679 on: November 18, 2015, 06:40:54 PM »

http://www.naturalnews.com/052017_fish_farming_industry_Costco_antibiotic_overuse.html

"Costco drastically cuts farmed salmon purchases from Chile

Previously purchasing about 90 percent of its salmon from Chile, the membership-only warehouse says it will now buy just 40 percent from the South American exporter as they look to Norway (the world's largest salmon producer) to supply the majority of their demand."

Did they miss your last post Chris?  :). Sounds more like a simple buisness move. Shelves remain full.
http://news.yahoo.com/addicted-antibiotics-chiles-salmon-flops-costco-grocers-130612992--finance.html
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