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Novabonker

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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2387 on: September 20, 2016, 05:07:38 PM »

Who said the Senate was useless?

Let's go back Dave to the post where you said you don't care or wouldn't bother to read up on the damage done back east .....and now it's all good? I also verydistinctly remember you expressing doubts about east coast salmon farming - live and in person  :o I've got a great memory. :)
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=32635.msg375976#msg375976

a few pearls from one company - just one!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/aquaculture-company-on-the-hook-for-500k-for-pesticide-use-1.1317105

http://www.southcoasttoday.ca/content/cooke-aquaculture-charged-environment-canada-illegal-pesticide-use

http://thechronicleherald.ca/business/112300-cooke-aquaculture-slow-to-report-barge-sinking
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2388 on: September 20, 2016, 06:00:21 PM »

Let's go back Dave to the post where you said you don't care or wouldn't bother to read up on the damage done back east .....and now it's all good? I also verydistinctly remember you expressing doubts about east coast salmon farming - live and in person  :o I've got a great memory. :)
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=32635.msg375976#msg375976

a few pearls from one company - just one!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/aquaculture-company-on-the-hook-for-500k-for-pesticide-use-1.1317105

http://www.southcoasttoday.ca/content/cooke-aquaculture-charged-environment-canada-illegal-pesticide-use

http://thechronicleherald.ca/business/112300-cooke-aquaculture-slow-to-report-barge-sinking
Totally correct Bill, I do believe East coast salmon farming has impacted indigenous wild Atlantic stocks; I have always made myself very clear on that.  I also think net pen salmon farming of Atlantic's in all countries that have wild Atlantic's has often been detrimental, mainly from interbreeding with escaped farmed fish.

But, I live in BC where most East coast issues are non issues here.  The Senators seemed to endorse increased aquaculture Canada wide, something I think is inevitable.
 
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2390 on: September 20, 2016, 09:08:34 PM »

Totally correct Bill, I do believe East coast salmon farming has impacted indigenous wild Atlantic stocks; I have always made myself very clear on that.  I also think net pen salmon farming of Atlantic's in all countries that have wild Atlantic's has often been detrimental, mainly from interbreeding with escaped farmed fish.

But, I live in BC where most East coast issues are non issues here.  The Senators seemed to endorse increased aquaculture Canada wide, something I think is inevitable.


I feel better now but it was a curious response to applaud a Newfoundland newspaper toting governmental leaning towards approval of expansion in the feedlots there.For some odd reason, I was under the impression that the farm Atlantics were sterile.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2391 on: September 20, 2016, 09:21:13 PM »

The definition of this thread,,,,,,,,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2393 on: September 28, 2016, 12:48:46 PM »

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« Reply #2394 on: September 28, 2016, 11:12:30 PM »

It was funny to hear Alex's latest rants on her Facebook page. Seeing as this thread is about getting facts straight maybe she should learn something about Fraser Pink salmon life history and the difference between odd and even years.

Here in BC we have the lowest number of sockeye returning to the Fraser in history and no pink salmon. - Alexandra Morton

Fraser River Pink Salmon return as 2 year old fish spawning in odd years. It's 2016. In some areas of the province the even year is more dominant. If she is going to champion wild salmon and spout off her criticism then she should get her facts straight.  She should also tell her followers that this Fraser Sockeye cycle line is typically the lowest of the 4 years. The 2012, brood experienced very poor spawning success in most areas. This doesn't include the possibility of poor marine survival for those that outmigrated to the ocean in 2014.   So, although very disappointing, her criticism is missing some context. Lastly, I see no mention of ranched salmon in this and the billions released annually by countries like Russia and the US (Alaska).
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2395 on: September 29, 2016, 08:59:00 AM »

Someone mentioned this before - do Alaska and Russia really release billions of pink salmon fry?

Seems like it is one of the least commercially desirable salmon and they would compete with Sockeye and Chinook up north.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2396 on: September 29, 2016, 12:34:05 PM »

Here's some information on salmon ranching ... and yes, ranched pinks definitely compete with BC's sockeye.  I think if you include all the countries using this practice it would certainly be in the billions of hatchery fish released.


http://www.alaskasalmonranching.com/what-is-salmon-ranching/

and here's some more

http://www.alaskasalmonranching.com/fishers-against-competition/






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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2398 on: September 29, 2016, 04:53:09 PM »

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/british-columbia/marine-harvest-canada-alexandra-morton-1.3780977

Nothing like a SLAPP to try to hide what your doing. The more I read about Salmon Ranching the more I like it over open net pens.
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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2399 on: September 29, 2016, 05:23:16 PM »

The more I read about Salmon Ranching the more I like it over open net pens.
Why does that not surprise me ::)
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