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[Dave]

I agree Nova, salmon farms are impacting wild Atlantic salmon on the East coast; I have always said that …  but this bill was directed here, the Pacific.  Looks like a fail by Donnelly and I'm sure a big disappointment to local activists, but seriously, you’re a bright guy, did you expect a different outcome?

[Novabonker]

I'm taking a trip to Nova Scotia this summer and I'm going to get a friend to take me out to the Saddle Island feedlot. I'll shoot some video of the carnage and talk to some fisherman that will give you a full understanding of why I have zip/zero/zilch trust in fish farms. If it's OK to pull the finger out east by some of the same companies, how and why in the name of Great Aunt Sadie would I trust them here? Or trust a government that gives them carte blanche out there? Fool me once...... Who knows, it might even change your mind or at the very least give you pause for thought.

P.S.- Cooke Aquaculture is busy trying to make some plays out here. They already have started.Look at the record they sport.

https://www.undercurrentnews.com/2016/06/10/cooke-family-closes-deal-with-icicle-seafoods/

[Novabonker]

And another snack for you.


http://fisherynation.com/archives/tag/cooke-aquaculture

[chris gadsden]

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/jeff-matthews/save-bc-salmon_b_12758462.html

[Dave]

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/jeff-matthews/save-bc-salmon_b_12758462.html

So much old and outdated information in that post ... but tell us how did Bill C-228 turn out?

[chris gadsden]

So much old and outdated information in that post ... but tell us how did Bill C-228 turn out?

It went well as more people now understand how bad FF are to our wild salmon. Like anything it takes time to change things around when you have some people making a lot of money and who care little about our wild salmon, habitat, the environment etc...

We humans have done so much damage to our planet the last 100 plus years.

Just look in Chilliwack to the recent gravel excavations on the Vedder and the covering of A1 farmland, the best in the world for the new Molson's brewery  there, many people who think this is just fine or maybe do not understand the implications.

As long as I can, I will continue to battle to save what is dear to me and others, no matter that others say or differ on my opinion.

[Easywater]

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/jeff-matthews/save-bc-salmon_b_12758462.html

Excellent article - a few quotes:

But here's the really diabolical part: salmon farmers have been knowingly putting virus-infected smolts into BC waters for years, while our government turned a blind eye. The practice is almost certainly illegal. Section 56 of the Fisheries Act states that the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans must ensure that farmed fish are free of disease before allowing their transfer into our ocean

Tons of other interesting info and links as well.

The world's largest salmon farming company, Marine Harvest, has begun a shift towards closed containment in Norway. Shouldn't we insist foreign companies show the same respect for our environment as they do in their own countries?

[Easywater]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2007/sep/29/fishfarm

The world's largest seafood company is coming under intense pressure to shift its fish farms further out to sea after its largest shareholder claimed the industry was helping to kill off wild salmon and trout populations.

John Fredriksen, a Norwegian shipping and oil industry billionaire who owns 29% of Marine Harvest, surprised anglers and conservationists by directly linking fish farms to plunging wild fish populations.

[Dave]

Excellent article - a few quotes:

But here's the really diabolical part: salmon farmers have been knowingly putting virus-infected smolts into BC waters for years, while our government turned a blind eye. The practice is almost certainly illegal. Section 56 of the Fisheries Act states that the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans must ensure that farmed fish are free of disease before allowing their transfer into our ocean

Tons of other interesting info and links as well.

The world's largest salmon farming company, Marine Harvest, has begun a shift towards closed containment in Norway. Shouldn't we insist foreign companies show the same respect for our environment as they do in their own countries?

For those that might want more information than given by this article, here are a few links. The first two are by DFO so I know Chris won't read them, the last by Almo.  You decide who you believe.

http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/science/aah-saa/species-especes/aq-health-sante/prv-rp-eng.html
http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?nid=1069579
https://www.ecojustice.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/FINAL-PRV-HSMI-backgrounder-v2.pdf

[chris gadsden]

For those that might want more information than given by this article, here are a few links. The first two are by DFO so I know Chris won't read them, the last by Almo.  You decide who you believe.

http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/science/aah-saa/species-especes/aq-health-sante/prv-rp-eng.html
http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?nid=1069579
https://www.ecojustice.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/FINAL-PRV-HSMI-backgrounder-v2.pdf

Thanks for the links, I skimmed them but as we all know FOC has to try to back up, to this point why they have allowed these FF to grow and have an impact on our wild salmon stocks. That is OK as it makes us work harder to get them out of our ocean.

I was wondering why the Weaver Creek spawning channel bury their salmon after they spawn instead of putting them back in the creek, as you say and I agree it is so important for the health of a river or stream.  Is it they are infected with a disease they picked up from the FF's?

[Dave]

Thanks for the links, I skimmed them
Yeah, knew you would,  Try reading them.

[Dave]

Is it they are infected with a disease they picked up from the FF's?

Time for your meds Chris.

[chris gadsden]

Time for your meds Chris.

More med's for Atlantic Salmon in their net pens you mean. Of course with your Canucks losing I will understand if you need some too.

You have not backed FOC up why they bury the carcasses at Weaver, you worked for FOC so you should know.

[Dave]

Sorry, I don't know why the carcasses are buried or if in fact they still are, although I did suggest higher numbers of carcasses' may have been the reason in a small watershed.  I think you're sucking straws but use your journalistic skills to find out and get back to us.
 
Seriously, do you really think they are buried (or not) because they have some disease brought on by salmon farms?  What disease?


Your turn.

[chris gadsden]

Sorry, I don't know why the carcasses are buried or if in fact they still are, although I did suggest higher numbers of carcasses' may have been the reason in a small watershed.  I think you're sucking straws but use your journalistic skills to find out and get back to us.
 
Seriously, do you really think they are buried (or not) because they have some disease brought on by salmon farms?  What disease?


Your turn./quote] Getting back to you quickly. As I stated before, it was in their recent brochure I picked up this week.