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[shuswapsteve]

I have a question...

Do the fish farm companies pay leases to First Nations groups in order to put their farms on native land (water)?

If it's Crown Land then I would say no. However, the province is legally obligated to consult and accommodate First Nations on land use decisions that could impact their interests. In a situation like the Brittany Triangle in the Chilcotin (Tsilhqot'in Nation v. British Columbia, 2014), the Supreme Court of Canada agreed to the the Tsilhqot'in Nation's aboriginal title claim so they call a lot of the shots in the land in question, with the exception of privately held lands which were not part of the decision. However, the Tsilhqot'in National Government is not about to kick the public off the land. It's not in their best interests to exclude access, business and government. They want to form partnerships and build capacity within their own ranks so manage what they have. They have checkpoints at different points of entry into the triangle but it's more informational and just getting an idea what activities are going on.

[Fisherbob]

http://aquaculturenorthamerica.com/News/wild-lobsters-thrive-near-salmon-farm/

[Dave]

http://aquaculturenorthamerica.com/News/wild-lobsters-thrive-near-salmon-farm/

Over to you Nova

[troutbreath]

Like their going to bite the hand that feeds them. Shat on them Shatner.

Sweeney International Marine Corp. (formerly Sweeney International Management Corp) was established in January 2002 as a one-man business operation working with the salmon farming industry in southwest New Brunswick's Bay of Fundy region.

[Novabonker]

Over to you Nova

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I hate it when an INDUSTRY TRIES TO SELL OUTRIGHT bovine excrement and tell you its chocolate pudding. Wait until I get back from Nova Scotia with plain FACTS and some other disturbing things about Cooke Aquaculture and not some shilling codswallop - the proof will be plain as day.

http://halifax.mediacoop.ca/story/can-sustainable-salmon-be-farmed/14610

https://www.saltscapes.com/people-culture-section/1871-the-future-of-the-family-fish-farm.html

[Dave]

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I hate it when an INDUSTRY TRIES TO SELL OUTRIGHT bovine excrement and tell you its chocolate pudding. Wait until I get back from Nova Scotia with plain FACTS and some other disturbing things about Cooke Aquaculture and not some shilling codswallop - the proof will be plain as day.

http://halifax.mediacoop.ca/story/can-sustainable-salmon-be-farmed/14610

https://www.saltscapes.com/people-culture-section/1871-the-future-of-the-family-fish-farm.html

Check your pm's Bill.

[Fisherbob]

http://canadians.org/blog/public-comment-period-neonicotinoid-pesticide-ban-closes-february-17

[Fisherbob]

More fake news exposed.

http://www.alaskasalmonranching.com/searching-for-anvesha-sharma/

[Easywater]

More fake news exposed.

http://www.alaskasalmonranching.com/searching-for-anvesha-sharma/

What a shock - poor reporting by the media.

Or is it?

I suspect this was the part the person at "The Truth About Alaska Salmon" had issue with:

Wild-caught fishes are healthier and less contaminated than farm raised fish as wild-caught ones feed on a natural diet with fewer bacteria and parasites. Farm-raised fish have more contamination from industrial chemicals such as PCBs. Plus, they are raised in crowded conditions and contain higher rates of pesticides, antibiotics and artificial colouring.

Lower levels of Omegas: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37321656
PCBs in farmed salmon: http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/getting-your-omega-3s-vs-avoiding-those-pcbsthe-family-healthguide

Unfortunately, the PCBs come from the feed fish so in order to lower the PCB levels, they are using less fish in the feed, which lowers the Omega levels.

The fact that the person writing the article made up their "expert" has nothing to do with salmon or farming and has everything to do with personal integrity.

[Fisherbob]

"Prof Tocher stressed that farmed salmon was still one of the richest sources of beneficial fish oils and he urged people who buy farmed salmon for its potential health benefits to continue doing so.
"Farmed salmon is just about the best way of getting omega-3 in our diet. All the other fish are much lower than mid-Atlantic salmon, including wild salmon," he said."

Very interesting. Thanks for the post Easywater.

[Fisherbob]

"The PCBs in farm-raised salmon come from the feed, which is made from smaller fish like herring and anchovies. Previous research had hinted at a problem, but a study in the Jan. 9, 2004, Science made a big splash because it was much larger (700 salmon samples) and was published in a prestigious journal. The study found that the PCB concentrations in farm-raised salmon were, on average, almost eight times higher than the concentrations in wild salmon (36.63 parts per billion vs. 4.75). That was still much lower than the FDA limit of 2,000 parts per billion. But the EPA has stricter standards for limiting exposure to pollutants in fish. The researchers said if those guidelines were applied to farm-raised salmon, it would trigger an EPA warning not to eat any of the farm-raised salmon they tested more often than once a month."

In this study, did they not compare farmed Atlantics to less fatty Pacific Salmon? I guess comparing farmed to wild atlantics would have a far less inpact on feelings.
Found it.

"As per Pew's specifications, the Hites study compared farmed Atlantic salmon and wild Pacific salmon. Because wild Atlantic salmon and farmed Pacific salmon were excluded, comparisons among the same species of salmon were avoided. In essence, the study compared apples to oranges."

http://fairquestions.typepad.com/rethink_campaigns/did-david-suzuki-prevaricate-about-pcbs-in-farmed-salmon.html

http://fairquestions.typepad.com/files/letter-to-david-suzuki-11may07-8.pdf

[shuswapsteve]

More fake news exposed.

http://www.alaskasalmonranching.com/searching-for-anvesha-sharma/

Interesting how this "nutritionist" packed up and left when questioned. I mean if it was truly legit they would stick around and respond. The internet can be a great source of information but it's "buyer beware" with many sites.

Well the 2004 Hites study had numerous critics and was kind misleading in many respects. To alarm people away from farmed salmon because of undocumented, long term risk of cancer versus the more immediate threat of heart disease and other obesity related diseases makes no sense to me. I mean we could use the EPA guidelines and be really strict, but is that going to be better for society as a whole or would it be better to encourage people to eat farmed or wild salmon to tackle the immediate health threats?

There are many things we consume that are potentially harmful to us, but some we would have to consume great quantities in such a short time in order to harm us. We would likely vomit first before we suffered long term impacts. I remember folks here in BC being so paranoid about Fukushima impacts, but the amount of radiation they were taking about that was here as a result of the disaster was less than what we are typically exposed to each day. Actually operating a microwave oven was worse I believe.  I concede that pregnant woman are going to opt for as little risk as possible, not matter how slight it is. I don't blame them because they are flooded with information on what to do and what not to do and meanwhile baby is coming out in 9 months.  As I have said from the beginning, I'm going to encourage my children to eat a balanced diet which can include farmed or wild salmon because it would be a greater risk not to. Personally, I feed them trout I catch because it's something I like to do and encourage them to one day do also for their own kids.

[chris gadsden]

http://nevalleynews.org/7831/opinion/salmon-farming-a-fishy-situation/?utm_source=Watershed+Watch+Email+List&utm_campaign=c3d98f3436-Salmon_News_Dec_7_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_405944b1b5-c3d98f3436-166912013&mc_cid=c3d98f3436&mc_eid=e6f132e5f8#prettyPhoto

[Dave]

You still haven't answered my question.

[Fisherbob]

https://protestingtheprotesters.wordpress.com/