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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2745 on: November 14, 2017, 06:09:59 PM »

bob, YOU haven't debunked anything. you, like morton, do not belong in lab coats  :P......you asked for links for the 90's which was what I posted.  which is when farms had an effect on wild salmon. it's in bold. you missed it three times now.

your entire rebuttal was a link to www.ilovesalmonfarms.com

since your posting the cohen report from 2009... not with any info from the 90's contradicting anything i posted, you are ackowledging the fact that farms were effecting various species within their immediate proximity prior to being heavily regulated....  which also falls in line with other industries when faced with regulations.  auto industry, tobacco, mining, agriculture and land based farms,  etc.

I share the same belief as cohen.  which I have posted several times.  around the 88-96 page mark.  that farms are not the sole culprit.  they are just sprinkles on the sunday so to speak.

do we need access to more fish protein? sure
are open net pens the way to do it? no
is it good that open net pens are heavily regulated? yes
are there worse things out there causing salmon populations to collapse? yes, of course.
are we smart enough to do this on land? yes
are farms the boogey man? no, but they are still scary.
are open net pens the key to future human survival? unlikely

simply bob, we can't insure the ocean. 

Open net farms are physically small and the industry is also small enough that they can all be relocated.  Every other species humans have farmed has had major issues with mutations and disease. every other one. salmon are no different because you think we are superfantastic at it here in BC.

Just because nothing hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it won't..... thats the main concern.  It really is easy to point an uninformed finger.  unfortunately now, I had to get that finger informed.  I still think its a bad idea, a very bad idea.... the uncertanties are absolutely huge, and I feel the risk is incredibly high. it's such a gamble.

this is my final post in this thread, as nothing more needs to be said. I beat this horse to death, brought it back to life only to beat it to death again. there will be no trilogy.

anyways, I wish you well Bob. I really do, and hopefully between posts your getting out to wet a line.
   




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Re: Get your facts straight?
« Reply #2746 on: November 14, 2017, 07:01:19 PM »

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« Reply #2747 on: November 14, 2017, 07:01:41 PM »

forget it...
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« Reply #2748 on: November 15, 2017, 04:34:21 AM »

Filmed this from Vancouver Court House yesterday.Mainstream Media had left so I got this exclusive interview. hold the comments on that statement. ;D ;D ;D

https://youtu.be/Bb8Bt7KWzek

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« Reply #2749 on: November 15, 2017, 04:38:11 AM »

And more I filmed for the PAP gang to grind there teeth over. Things will be heating up soon stay tuned. ;D

https://youtu.be/ZAOdZ8RLlbM

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« Reply #2750 on: November 15, 2017, 04:45:27 AM »

Only the beginning Dave my boy, lots more is
 going to happened. I will have all the coverage up from yesterday soon. Of course you are in the dark ages as cannot see all the pictures not being on FB.  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #2751 on: November 16, 2017, 09:17:38 AM »

https://protestingtheprotesters.wordpress.com/2013/07/26/fair-comment/
 This explains my thinking of your links after reading them a few times Banx. We must take into mind how all articals are written before we jump to conclusions.
  "“Fair comment is a legal term for a common law defense in defamation cases (libel or slander)… In Canada, for something to constitute fair comment, the comment must be on a matter of public interest (excluding gossip), based on known and provable facts, must be an opinion that any person is capable of holding based on those facts, and with no actual malice underlying it. The cardinal test of whether a statement is fair comment is whether it is recognizable as an opinion rather than a statement of fact, and whether it could be drawn from the known facts.”
  I think it is well worth reading the full fair comment page. :)
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« Reply #2753 on: November 16, 2017, 10:22:12 AM »

https://www.facebook.com/events/625235821199917/ Nova the e maill you gave me did not  work, here is the details.

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« Reply #2758 on: November 19, 2017, 05:23:20 AM »

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« Reply #2759 on: November 19, 2017, 07:29:37 AM »

https://youtu.be/8_TKoZNEFlw

That's it?  No wonder you have been quiet about this ...
I gather the Chilliwack DFO Wild Salmon Policy meeting didn't go as well as you had hoped also. Not to worry Chris, you still have your dreams.
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